From webmaster at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 1 02:13:36 2008 From: webmaster at bmwcsregistry.org (Erik Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 1 02:13:21 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] test Message-ID: test message -- oo==00==oo Erik Wegweiser, BMW CSRegistry Webmaster From webmaster at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 1 02:47:41 2008 From: webmaster at bmwcsregistry.org (Erik Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 1 02:47:28 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Planned Maintenance Alert Message-ID: Greetings, all: I just finished working with the fine folks at our data center a few time zones away (no, not Mumbai.... Seattle) We have finally upgraded to the new server. Hazah! The BMW CS Registry mailing list, website and mailing list probably wasn't working for a couple days, during the migration, but is back online now on the new server. Thank you for your patience. -- Sincerely, Erik Sleepless in Boston. -- oo==00==oo Erik Wegweiser, BMW CSRegistry Webmaster From gary at siepser.net Fri Aug 1 19:55:35 2008 From: gary at siepser.net (Gary Siepser) Date: Fri Aug 1 19:55:09 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Planned Maintenance Alert In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4893A277.4050000@siepser.net> Thanks Eric for bringing us all back together. Gary Erik Wegweiser wrote: > Greetings, all: > > I just finished working with the fine folks at our data center a > few time zones away (no, not Mumbai.... Seattle) > > We have finally upgraded to the new server. Hazah! > > The BMW CS Registry mailing list, website and mailing list > probably wasn't working for a couple days, during the > migration, but is back online now on the new server. > > Thank you for your patience. > > -- Sincerely, Erik > > Sleepless in Boston. > > > > > > From bmwbits at bellsouth.net Mon Aug 4 16:40:39 2008 From: bmwbits at bellsouth.net (Bill Proud) Date: Mon Aug 4 16:40:39 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] BMW Tool listing Message-ID: <099601c8f672$5c921000$6001a8c0@DGNPHLB1> Does anyone out there know where I might find a complete listing of the tools BMW provides dealers for the doing of maintenance (presumably as part of their 'dealership agreement package ' ..AKA "You WILL buy these tools " ) ?? A few yrs back I bought several large boxes of those tools that appear to have come from a closed-out dealership in or near Natick in New England (Mass ? ) .....and to be frank I'm not sure what I got . BMW has a weird way of numbering tools so I'm not sure whether some of them are complete due to that numbering system ...do the X XX 201 and X XX 202 both go with the X XX 200 or are they stand-alone tools ? What I'd really like to find is a full numerical listing with a description of the tools intended function and the mode(s)l it applies to .(Dream on eh ? ) These tools seem to be date-coded around 1988/89 and are both mechanical (hold it with this ) and electrical (breakout box ) types Some of these tools are brand new (still in their sealed wrapping) with BMW stores-pick labels still attached ...and their nomenclatures are wonderful .......'handle' ,,'part of engine stand' etc etc so they really dont help much . A while back someone suggested that I could find the tools (as a reference ....."Use tool Y YY 205 " type of thing ) by reading the maintenance manuals . As I dont have a lifetime to spare to do that ( I own about 15 or 20 of the old 'blue-books' for starters !!) I'd dearly like to find a quick-and-dirty (CLEANER ) method . Anyone got an idea ? Are the BMW maintenance CDs (of which I have none ) searchable by/for a specific part number or series of numbers?? ..."All tools beginning with 1 22 *** " type of thing . Or is there a 'tool CD' hiding out there somewhere ? .....anyone got friends at BMW NA ? HELP!! Please forward this to any place you think might be able to help . Meanwhile I need to get help to compile my own numeric and alphabetic listing of what's out there ...what's the best way ?... Bill Proud (AKA The steam-driven computer guy ). From MikeUra at aol.com Mon Aug 4 17:15:26 2008 From: MikeUra at aol.com (MikeUra@aol.com) Date: Mon Aug 4 17:15:34 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] BMW Tool listing Message-ID: Bill, I have a BNW Special Tools Catalog, circa early 70s (when real BMWs were built :)). Yes the numbering is funky. I am on the road, won't be home until Friday. Will gladly reply then in greater detail. Mike In a message dated 8/4/2008 3:40:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bmwbits@bellsouth.net writes: Does anyone out there know where I might find a complete listing of the tools BMW provides dealers for the doing of maintenance (presumably as part of their 'dealership agreement package ' ..AKA "You WILL buy these tools " ) ?? A few yrs back I bought several large boxes of those tools that appear to have come from a closed-out dealership in or near Natick in New England (Mass ? ) .....and to be frank I'm not sure what I got . BMW has a weird way of numbering tools so I'm not sure whether some of them are complete due to that numbering system ...do the X XX 201 and X XX 202 both go with the X XX 200 or are they stand-alone tools ? What I'd really like to find is a full numerical listing with a description of the tools intended function and the mode(s)l it applies to .(Dream on eh ? ) These tools seem to be date-coded around 1988/89 and are both mechanical (hold it with this ) and electrical (breakout box ) types Some of these tools are brand new (still in their sealed wrapping) with BMW stores-pick labels still attached ...and their nomenclatures are wonderful .......'handle' ,,'part of engine stand' etc etc so they really dont help much . A while back someone suggested that I could find the tools (as a reference ....."Use tool Y YY 205 " type of thing ) by reading the maintenance manuals . As I dont have a lifetime to spare to do that ( I own about 15 or 20 of the old 'blue-books' for starters !!) I'd dearly like to find a quick-and-dirty (CLEANER ) method . Anyone got an idea ? Are the BMW maintenance CDs (of which I have none ) searchable by/for a specific part number or series of numbers?? ..."All tools beginning with 1 22 *** " type of thing . Or is there a 'tool CD' hiding out there somewhere ? .....anyone got friends at BMW NA ? HELP!! Please forward this to any place you think might be able to help . Meanwhile I need to get help to compile my own numeric and alphabetic listing of what's out there ...what's the best way ?... Bill Proud (AKA The steam-driven computer guy ). _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080804/7356a043/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Mon Aug 4 21:38:55 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Mon Aug 4 21:38:55 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] O'Fest Message-ID: Things have been quiet on the list. Is everybody off on holiday or working three jobs to meet their mortgage and car payments? ? Visiting Katmandu? Preparing to attend the Chinese Olympics? Enjoy their wonderful cuisine but bring bags of money and keep your mouth shut about anything political. Anybody going to Watklins Glen O'fest in late September? I'm thinking on it . I've been there several times before and it is a great but very pricey place. Probably late September is a wise time for it with fewer tourists, pretty leaves and mostly a bunch of BMW loons. And great weather is likely instead of sweating our cojones off in August as in the past at some other venues. I truly appreciate that the Chapters and their members do work long and hard at a very difficult task but time and place is of some importance. Topping my list of best O'fests I attended was New Hampshire and Colorado. Good thing it isn't this month in Dallas or Houston. Since it is only 6 hours from where I live, much of it on the boring and tedious NY Thruway which is thoroughly patrolled by fund raising Gestapo, at the very least I would like to show Ilse off at the Wednesday Concours (not in a white gloves and Q tips Class). Does anybody have a booked lodging they would like to share expenses with for the nights of 9/23 & 9/24? Just clean, dry and safe will suffice. Watkins Glen equivalent of the Ritz-Carlton not needed and I have slept on couches and floors before. Art -- From art at bmwcsregistry.org Tue Aug 5 09:56:42 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Tue Aug 5 09:56:40 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Model Cars Message-ID: CS Coupe Registry, Mini Bimmers will continue a 10% discount on their products to Model 120 & E9 people as I have arranged. E3 (Bavaria) people are also eligible due to my efforts on their behalf. If you are on that list too you may know the whole silly story of why I , evil Art, is in Coventry forever on the SSR list. Art- >\From: "Lenhardt's Mini Bimmers" >Subject: August September Mini Bimmers News >To: "Michael Lenhardt" >August/September 2008 >Dear BMW Collectors, > >We will be at Oktoberfest at the Glen this year >and therefore will not have a September >newsletter >with all the preparations involved. Of course we >look forward to see most of you there. > >Manufacturers rushed to get a lot of releases >out before their summer break as shown below. > >In 1:18 Minichamps finally delivered Alpina's >black 3.5 CSL from Le Mans in 1976, which was >co-driven by our local hero Sam Posey. From >Kyosho we have the E92 M3 in new colors. > >New 1:43 models can take your breath away: A new >company NEO makes some rare resin models. >Our first one is the E21 Baur convertible. >Details of the body, paint and photo etched >parts put it in a >class with Scala43. Hekorsa sent 2 of their own >limited editions, the IXO E30 M3 which won the >1990 >Belgian championship and by Minichamps a bright >red and yellow McLaren F1. Also from Minichamps >a McLaren F1 GTR made for the Automobile Club de >L'Ouest, the Le Mans organizer for the 100th >anniversary of the 24 hour race. Also from >Minichamps are 2 new F1 cars from 2006: Vettel's >test car >and Heidfeld"s Brazilian car with "Danke >Michael" on the rear wing. And for all of >Poldi's friends is an >E36 touring car from 1998, sponsored by >J?germeister and driven by Prince Leopold. From >Competition43 >comes an unusual 1994 E21 hillclimb car driven >by champion Plasa. Group H appears similar to >group 5 >with extra venturies to keep the car from flying off the mountains. > >In 1/87 Herpa came out with new colors of some >of their super detailed little gems. > >Don't forget to check out this month's bargain, >the yellow Schuco CSL roadcar. > >1:18 KYOSHO >422601 E92 M3 Coupe, new colors blue >or gray $ 85. > >1:18 MINICHAMPS >762042 3.5 CSL Group 5 Alpina, Le >Mans 1976 Sam Posey #42 $ 89. > >1:43 IXO >LMM107 McLaren F1 GTR Le Mans 1997 >BMW Motorsport #42 $ 42. >HE011D E30 M3 Hartge Resto #3, Limited Hekorsa Edition >Belgian Champion 1990 > $ 46. > >1:43 MINICHAMPS >982625 E36 320 Touring Car 1998 J?germeister Limited Edition > >Prince Leopold of Bavaria # 25 > $ 49. >060043 BMW Sauber F1 '06 Test Driver >Sebastian Vettel $ 45. >060316 BMW Sauber F1 Brazil GP 2006 > >Nick Heidfeld "Danke Michael" >$ 45. >133444 McLaren F1 Ltd. Hekorsa >Edition red with yellow $ 49. >5184340 McLaren F1 GTR EMI #40 Le Mans 1998 Limited Edition for > Le Mans A.C.O. 100th Anniversary, >Auberlen, O'Rourke, Sugden $ 89. > >1:43 NEO >43285 E21 3 Series Baur >Convertible, pale green >$ 69. > >1:87 HERPA >22897 Z8 Roadster, new color red >$ 13. >23320 Z4 Roadster with removable >top, black >$ 12. >33824 Mini Cooper S Clubman, new >colors red or green $ 14. >33879 E82 1 Series Coupe, new >colors silver or red >$ 13. >47586 E61 5 Series Touring Police >$ 18. > > > >Addition to the Mini Bimmers Collection of >handcrafted models in 1:43 by Competition 43. >COMP43-071: E21 320 Group H, Plasa, German Hillclimb Champion 1994 $ 235. > >Pictures are on our website at >http://www.minibimmers.com/NewArrivals.htm > >BARGAIN CAR OF THE MONTH: 3.0 CSL Road Car in 1:43 >Schuco 2195, golf yellow, $34 SALE $ 24. >http://www.minibimmers.com/BargainShop.htm > >Enjoy the second half of your Summer and we hope >to see most of you at Watkins Glen in September! >Please keep in mind that quantities are limited - order early. >Remember our motto: "Ask us first!" > >Michael and Holly Lenhardt, Mini Bimmers, New >Jersey 973-627-9485 (daily 10 - 9 >Eastern) > >http://www.minibimmers.com/ > -- From mike at valentine1.com Tue Aug 5 15:20:01 2008 From: mike at valentine1.com (Mike Valentine) Date: Tue Aug 5 15:19:49 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time for a stupid question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066B9@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> "Things have been quiet on the list. Is everybody off on holiday or working three jobs to meet their mortgage and car payments? ?" ............................... OK, I'll bite with an E9 operation stupid question. See, it's like this: I am new to the myriad delights of E9 operating controls. I have found the clutch, the brake, the gas and the gear lever pretty quickly, for a newbie. I even found out how to un-latch the hood (bonnet?) so as to marvel at the motor! The turn signals were a blinding flash of discovery once I finished making the high-beams and low-beams wink about. But, now I have a question. How does one make the wipers go different speeds? Currently, when I push endwise on the turn signal stalk, the wipers start up and then, with a subsequent push, they stop all that business. However, the wipers only work on what seems to be an intermittent cycle. Swipe, pause, swipe, pause. Maybe they're just tired or weak? Perhaps they want a shorter work week? Is there some control somewhere (that has escaped my notice) that may govern different wischwaschen modes or styles? Can I make them sweep at a steady clip? How 'bout steady, but even faster? Wo ist der Regler oder andere Sache? Anxious in Cincinnati, Mike #2261995 From CPeavey at HPTI.com Tue Aug 5 15:30:32 2008 From: CPeavey at HPTI.com (Peavey, Charlie) Date: Tue Aug 5 15:30:01 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time for astupid question In-Reply-To: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066B9@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066B9@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E966F@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> Well, Mike, Your first mistake was to ask an electrical question without stating the year of your coupe. (Yeah, I saw the VIN but I don't have the VIN-year mapping memorized.) The answer for late models is: flick the lever downward to get slow-steady and then fast-steady. Those are relative, of course. It's really "very slow" and "not so slow" The answer for older models is: there is a speed control knob somewhere else. Someone else will have to provide the details. Charlie '74 3.0CS -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Mike Valentine Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:20 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time for astupid question "Things have been quiet on the list. Is everybody off on holiday or working three jobs to meet their mortgage and car payments? ?" ............................... OK, I'll bite with an E9 operation stupid question. See, it's like this: I am new to the myriad delights of E9 operating controls. I have found the clutch, the brake, the gas and the gear lever pretty quickly, for a newbie. I even found out how to un-latch the hood (bonnet?) so as to marvel at the motor! The turn signals were a blinding flash of discovery once I finished making the high-beams and low-beams wink about. But, now I have a question. How does one make the wipers go different speeds? Currently, when I push endwise on the turn signal stalk, the wipers start up and then, with a subsequent push, they stop all that business. However, the wipers only work on what seems to be an intermittent cycle. Swipe, pause, swipe, pause. Maybe they're just tired or weak? Perhaps they want a shorter work week? Is there some control somewhere (that has escaped my notice) that may govern different wischwaschen modes or styles? Can I make them sweep at a steady clip? How 'bout steady, but even faster? Wo ist der Regler oder andere Sache? Anxious in Cincinnati, Mike #2261995 _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From mike at valentine1.com Tue Aug 5 16:05:05 2008 From: mike at valentine1.com (Mike Valentine) Date: Tue Aug 5 16:05:38 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time forastupid question In-Reply-To: <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E966F@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066B9@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E966F@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> Message-ID: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Charlie, Thanks for the response. Mine is a '72 CSi originally delivered to Zurich. Mike -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, Charlie Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:31 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time forastupid question Well, Mike, Your first mistake was to ask an electrical question without stating the year of your coupe. (Yeah, I saw the VIN but I don't have the VIN-year mapping memorized.) The answer for late models is: flick the lever downward to get slow-steady and then fast-steady. Those are relative, of course. It's really "very slow" and "not so slow" The answer for older models is: there is a speed control knob somewhere else. Someone else will have to provide the details. Charlie '74 3.0CS From art at bmwcsregistry.org Tue Aug 5 16:10:01 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Tue Aug 5 16:10:00 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Coupe Parts For Sale Message-ID: Happy mid summer, all, Quoted below as received. And yes, as George says, there was a tow hitch on a Coupe. Kind of a two inch diameter open steel tube without the commonly seen ball on SUV's. To tow what with a Coupe and not tear her guts out - a Vespa? My Ilse has a tow hitch mounted under her ass end which some people think is a strange second exhaust in the middle. The other half of this hitch is somewhere in Deutschland Never Land and possibly owned by somebody looking for the end I have. Mine stays there as part of the (mostly) original pieces she has. Besides who knows what the genius of Karmann had done to hold it and other things in place. Art >>I have sold my coupe and I am in the final clean up . I want $1200 >>for the front seats and will accept offers for the wood trim and >>the Alpina wheel. The tool box and other parts on the list you can >>have for the cost of shipping, contact me at >>washburnge@aol.com in all cases the >>buyer is responsible for pick up or shipping. >> >>Parts 3.0 CS >> >>Contact George Washburn >> >>washburnge@aol.com >> >> Front seats in tan leather. Used but in excellent condition, no >>cuts, rips or perforations, stitching is excellent, the >>leather very supple, horse hair is very good, seats are complete >>with head rests, controls, trim pieces and tracks. The actual >>leather finish shows some wear especially on the left bolster of >>the driver's seat back and seat. A re-coloring with Leatherique or >>Color Bond products would put these seats in concours condition. I >>can have this done professionally for $500 the color to match your >>selection. >> >>Tan door panels with arm rests, map pockets, and kick panels all in >>good condition. >> >>Wood trim under the front and rear windows. The wood is in >>excellent condition but needs refinish. >> >> One Alpina wheel 7x14. This wheel is essentially the same as the >>BMW wheels supplied with the CSL. >> >>The wheel was purchased new by me in 1986 was used one season with >>a snow tire and then stored. >> >>Essentially perfect condition. >> >> Trunk tool box, no tools. Parts of the ears are broken and there >>is a crack in the cover. Not in good shape but I hate to throw it >>out. >> >> 51 14 5 580 144 Roundel for C pillar ( mounts via two 4 >>mm posts on the back ) excellent except for 3/8 inch scratch in the >>black facing. >> >> 71 60 1 104 567 (1) Tow hitch (yes there was a tow >>hitch made by BMW for the coupe) I believe all the parts are here >>but excludes any electrical connection parts. Used >> > 31 35 1 103 000 (1) Front sway bar 17 mm dia. Used > >>(1) Set CS springs Used >> >> (1) cylinder head. Used >> >> >> >> >> George >>Washburn >> > >-- > > > > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080805/06fad6a0/attachment.html From mike at valentine1.com Tue Aug 5 21:02:09 2008 From: mike at valentine1.com (Mike Valentine) Date: Tue Aug 5 21:01:54 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time forastupid question In-Reply-To: References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> -----Original Message----- From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM To: Mike Valentine Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time forastupid question Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window switch. All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out is slow, two out is fast. Ben, Thanks for the tip! I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did. Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it had some sort of variable function, as well. Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent wiping actions. Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll give that knob a workout. Cheers, Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi #2261995 >Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off. >Hope this helps, >Ben From IVThx at comcast.net Tue Aug 5 21:21:22 2008 From: IVThx at comcast.net (Stan Chamallas) Date: Tue Aug 5 21:21:17 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: <000301c8f762$bcce6e00$6401a8c0@D6L4JM51> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 78398 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080805/090142a9/attachment-0001.jpe From art at bmwcsregistry.org Wed Aug 6 14:56:30 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Wed Aug 6 14:56:23 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: Correct Mike & Ben but only sometimes. You forget that Hans und Dieter changed specifications whenever they felt like it. Especially after Heidi came around with her beer cart. Punching the right side stick (also turn signal - quite the opposite of later schemes - makes it a minor problem when I drive the Subaru)) on Ilse turns on the wiper BUT for intermittent only. If I want slow (which is very slow), I use the pull knob below the left window (rear only, no front electric exists on a CSi) switch - two clicks out if I want slow(which is really very slow). For fast (which is simple slow) I use one click out. Not intuitive but ... Best suggestion - in a really heavy rain, find an overpass, turn on your flashers and locate some good program on your local NPR station. On some Coupes that knob does other things which I forget. Hey if anybody hasn't discovered the simple secret of having the wipers return to all the way down position when shut off, let me know. No charge for this although sharing the cost of an already reserved lodging for just a couple of days at Watkins Glen O'fest gladly accepted. Everything seems booked up at substantial prices between Albany and Buffalo. Lots of unlabeled things in Coupes. Play with those three buttons on the under dash panel and see what they do. I advise against attempting to twist any switch except maybe the headlight thing which will give you very dim and not so dim gauge lights. Art At 9:02 PM -0400 8/5/08, Mike Valentine wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM >To: Mike Valentine >Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - >Time forastupid question > > >Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window >switch. All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out >is slow, two out is fast. > >Ben, > >Thanks for the tip! > >I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did. > >Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it had >some sort of variable function, as well. > >Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent >wiping actions. > >Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll >give that knob a workout. > >Cheers, > >Mike in Cincinnati >'72 CSi #2261995 > > > > >>Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off. > >>Hope this helps, > >Ben -- From jmlaughead at aol.com Wed Aug 6 15:32:50 2008 From: jmlaughead at aol.com (jmlaughead@aol.com) Date: Wed Aug 6 15:33:05 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: <8CAC612590AAC6C-830-6F2F@WEBMAIL-NG17.sysops.aol.com> And the old(er) cars don't even have an intermittent function (or maybe mine has just been broken the whole time I have owned it). Jim -----Original Message----- From: Art Wegweiser To: Mike Valentine ; CS Coupe Registry USA Cc: bent@lucien.blight.com Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 1:56 pm Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Correct Mike & Ben but only sometimes.? You forget that Hans und Dieter changed specifications whenever they felt like it. Especially after Heidi came around with her beer cart.? ? Punching the right side stick (also turn signal - quite the opposite of later schemes - makes it a minor problem when I drive the Subaru)) on Ilse turns on the wiper BUT for intermittent only.? If I want slow (which is very slow), I use the pull knob below the left window (rear only, no front electric exists on a CSi) switch - two clicks out if I want slow(which is really very slow). For fast (which is simple slow) I use one click out. Not intuitive but ...? Best suggestion - in a really heavy rain, find an overpass, turn on your flashers and locate some good program on your local NPR station.? ? On some Coupes that knob does other things which I forget.? ? Hey if anybody hasn't discovered the simple secret of having the wipers return to all the way down position when shut off, let me know. No charge for this although sharing the cost of an already reserved lodging for just a couple of days at Watkins Glen O'fest gladly accepted. Everything seems booked up at substantial prices between Albany and Buffalo.? ? Lots of unlabeled things in Coupes. Play with those three buttons on the under dash panel and see what they do.? I advise against attempting to twist any switch except maybe the headlight thing which will give you very dim and not so dim gauge lights.? Art? ? At 9:02 PM -0400 8/5/08, Mike Valentine wrote:? >-----Original Message-----? >From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com]? >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM? >To: Mike Valentine? >Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list -? >Time forastupid question? >? >? >Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window? >switch. All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out? >is slow, two out is fast.? >? >Ben,? >? >Thanks for the tip!? >? >I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did.? >? >Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it had? >some sort of variable function, as well.? >? >Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent? >wiping actions.? >? >Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll? >give that knob a workout.? >? >Cheers,? >? >Mike in Cincinnati? >'72 CSi #2261995? >? >? >? >? >>Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off.? >? >>Hope this helps,? > >Ben? ? -- ? ? _______________________________________________? Please edit the length of replies? BMWCSRegistry mailing list? BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net? http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080806/7ba287c6/attachment.html From knowtree at aloha.com Wed Aug 6 12:17:01 2008 From: knowtree at aloha.com (knowtree@aloha.com) Date: Wed Aug 6 18:16:52 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Message-ID: <200808062217.m76MH1sp012389@yoda.pixi.com> > And the old(er) cars don't even have an intermittent function > (or maybe mine has just been broken the whole time I have owned it). > > Jim OK, time for a wiper anecdote. I had just purchased my E9 after having driven a very tired out 2002 for a couple of years, and was out on a beautiful, warm, sunny day enjoying the immense power of the big six cylinder motor. Of course I had all the windows down. A lot of folks would lean over and ask what kind of car it was; I was enjoying the attention. I was in Pearl City, roughly fifteen miles from home, just making the transition from highway to freeway when suddenly it started to pour, right near the stadium. I had not bothered to work out the wiper operation, so already this was a heart stopper. At the same time I was closing the electric windows, suddenly unhappy with their glacial slowness and pondering how many planetary gear stages it took to achieve. The downpour had increased. We're talking fire hose levels. Visibility nearing zero and made worse from the fog starting to collect on the inside of the windows. Suddenly I heard a ka-thump, then a screee, screee, screee. The driver's side wiper had retired, leaving the arm scraping against the glass. Now I had zero visibility, still going at least forty miles per hour and surrounded by cars whooshing past at a good sixty. I actually reached up to wipe the windshield, realizing as I did that the water really was on the outside. All I could do was lean over and look out the passenger's side as a guided the car to the shoulder and stopped to wait for the rain to pass. The first thing I bought for the car was a new wiper. Only BMW had something that fit and looked right, and they cost a fortune. Gary Dunn Honolulu MP110, MP2100 Open Slate Project http://openslate.net/ From CPeavey at HPTI.com Wed Aug 6 18:29:15 2008 From: CPeavey at HPTI.com (Peavey, Charlie) Date: Wed Aug 6 18:28:41 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function. - Charlie -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Mike Valentine Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:02 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question -----Original Message----- From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM To: Mike Valentine Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time forastupid question Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window switch. All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out is slow, two out is fast. Ben, Thanks for the tip! I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did. Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it had some sort of variable function, as well. Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent wiping actions. Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll give that knob a workout. Cheers, Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi #2261995 >Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off. >Hope this helps, >Ben _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From lcabel at bellsouth.net Wed Aug 6 21:45:39 2008 From: lcabel at bellsouth.net (Larry Abel) Date: Wed Aug 6 21:45:37 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list -Timeforastupid question References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com><1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <000301c8f762$bcce6e00$6401a8c0@D6L4JM51> Message-ID: <004801c8f82f$4c6b2220$6101a8c0@kathyd8d832d30> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 78398 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080806/2fa69905/attachment-0001.jpe From art at bmwcsregistry.org Wed Aug 6 21:51:07 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Wed Aug 6 21:50:59 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: <200808062217.m76MH1sp012389@yoda.pixi.com> References: <200808062217.m76MH1sp012389@yoda.pixi.com> Message-ID: Use Rain Ex to help with your problem. The faster you go, the better it works. I do find it hard to understand that no wiper would work and look right except one from BMW. Somebody should have an answer. As for my own wiper anecdote, a few years ago I entered a tunnel on the PA Turnpike on a bright sunny day. On the other side of the mountain, however, rain as you described was in progress. As always, all my windows were down except that on a CSi, for reasons unknown (some schmuck in accounting saving costs on a very pricey $9K in 1972 car I suppose) only the rears are electric. A manual close for the drive side was quick and easy but the other side could not be reached without having an arm six inches longer - even with the bad idea seat belt unlatched. Real fun in heavy traffic as I worried about my lovely velour seats being soaked. Art At 12:16 PM +0812 8/6/08, knowtree@aloha.com wrote: > > And the old(er) cars don't even have an intermittent function >> (or maybe mine has just been broken the whole time I have owned it). >> >> Jim > >OK, time for a wiper anecdote. I had just purchased my E9 after having >driven a very tired out 2002 for a couple of years, and was out on a >beautiful, warm, sunny day enjoying the immense power of the big six >cylinder motor. Of course I had all the windows down. A lot of folks would >lean over and ask what kind of car it was; I was enjoying the attention. I >was in Pearl City, roughly fifteen miles from home, just making the >transition from highway to freeway when suddenly it started to pour, right >near the stadium. I had not bothered to work out the wiper operation, so >already this was a heart stopper. At the same time I was closing the >electric windows, suddenly unhappy with their glacial slowness and >pondering how many planetary gear stages it took to achieve. The downpour >had increased. We're talking fire hose levels. Visibility nearing zero and >made worse from the fog starting to collect on the inside of the windows. >Suddenly I heard a ka-thump, then a screee, screee, screee. The driver's >side wiper had retired, leaving the arm scraping against the glass. Now I >had zero visibility, still going at least forty miles per hour and >surrounded by cars whooshing past at a good sixty. I actually reached up to >wipe the windshield, realizing as I did that the water really was on the >outside. All I could do was lean over and look out the passenger's side as >a guided the car to the shoulder and stopped to wait for the rain to pass. >The first thing I bought for the car was a new wiper. Only BMW had >something that fit and looked right, and they cost a fortune. > >Gary Dunn >Honolulu >MP110, MP2100 >Open Slate Project >http://openslate.net/ -- From eatonmike at msn.com Wed Aug 6 22:10:34 2008 From: eatonmike at msn.com (Michael Eaton) Date: Wed Aug 6 22:10:23 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: References: <200808062217.m76MH1sp012389@yoda.pixi.com> Message-ID: Ok, my wiper story. This Floridian bought his coupe over the internet from a nice lady in Arizona. Had a local shop in Flagstaff go over it before flying out to drive it home. Shop forgot to mention the complete lack of wipers. Being the optomistic sort, I Rainx'd up the windows and hit the road. Crossed the Continental Divide in the dead of night in a torrential downpour with the rain streaking up the screen. Lightning flashing all around. Psychadelic! Mike '71 2800CS (3.5L w/5sp, and new shiny chrome wipers) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080806/420382fa/attachment.html From bmwbits at bellsouth.net Thu Aug 7 08:14:44 2008 From: bmwbits at bellsouth.net (Bill Proud) Date: Thu Aug 7 08:14:32 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Let there be .... Message-ID: <10ea01c8f887$2e218040$6001a8c0@DGNPHLB1> lights ... Winter is a-coming in so if you intend to keep the lights on through it I have deals for you ...... A) One brand-new pair of BOSCH rectangular halogen fog-lights -as seen on lots of E21s - in their original kit package.They put out a 108 degree (included angle ) beam which lights up the side of the road where those bloody deer all come from ......so they are perfek for back road warriors . The whole kit is Bosch part number 22650 (or 030560 1004 A if you want the long version ) . The kit comes with its own colour coded and prewired relay and a pair of covers for the foglight glass ,two new Osram 55w bulbs, a toggle switch and destructions for their use . Price is $80 . My guess for lower 48 shipping is $10 . Put some heavy wire and a big fuse between the battery and relay and these lights for amazing light B) PLUS ...A pair of brand-new 5 3/4" Hella Euro-coded (E3 ) halogen hi/lo replacement headlight units also in their original packing , with new bulbs . Price is $80 the pair (lowest on the web is $93 for Hella -others are cheaper and you DO get what you pay for ) plus $10 shipping Use a relay kit (see below ) to remove the stupid BMW design where your headlight current runs thru the ignition-switch Put some heavy wire and a big fuse between the battery and relay and these lights for amazing light . C) PLUS: A HELLA relay kit with mounted relay , wires and 'stuff' to do the job properly for B) above . Looks like OEM when installed . Price $30 plus $8 to ship (its quite hefty ) Contact me off-digest pls ...BMWBITS@BELLSOUTH.NET Bill Proud, 38 yrs messing with BMWs From mike at valentine1.com Thu Aug 7 11:05:02 2008 From: mike at valentine1.com (Mike Valentine) Date: Thu Aug 7 11:04:49 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com><1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> Message-ID: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Charlie, "Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function." Roger, roger on the twisting action ;) My faulty memory led me to think that the knob in question had some sort of twist action to it. It does not twist and I won't be trying to twist it in the future! I confirmed this by trying it again yesterday just before the transporter arrived to take it to California for the BMWV&CCCA 2008 Marathon. Thanks to all who answered my query. Cheers, Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi #2261995 -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, Charlie Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:29 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list -Timeforastupid question Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function. - Charlie From cgshawaii at netscape.net Thu Aug 7 15:30:36 2008 From: cgshawaii at netscape.net (cgshawaii@netscape.net) Date: Thu Aug 7 15:30:45 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <000301c8f762$bcce6e00$6401a8c0@D6L4JM51> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <000301c8f762$bcce6e00$6401a8c0@D6L4JM51> Message-ID: <8CAC6DB32F9DFF9-13F0-5B9E@webmail-nd05.sysops.aol.com> 1. Mess with the speed control knob while the wipers are running. 2.? If that proves unsatisfactory, contact a pal who has a bunch of wiper relays laying about.? I know of only one such person. 3.? Disassemble the wiper transmission, clean and inspect the copper tabs that control the park position.? Grease may be preventing proper contact.? I'd bend the copper tabs to make better contact while I'm in there. 4.? Acknowledge that BMW has designed and implemented yet another truly strange bit of electromechanical humbuggery, and hurl the entire problem to your mechanic.? Note, I try to avoid this. That said, I have only two speeds, lack the intermittent function.? But since I avoid driving in the rain, it seldom matters. Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Stan Chamallas To: 'Mike Valentine' ; 'CS Coupe Registry USA' Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 3:21 pm Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question I get only one speed out of my wipers now. Any thoughts on how I get the intermittent and slow back? Stan ? ? -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Mike Valentine Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:02 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question ? ? ? -----Original Message----- From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM To: Mike Valentine Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time forastupid question ? ? Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window switch.? All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out is slow, two out is fast. ? Ben, ? Thanks for the tip! ? I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did. ? Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it had some sort of variable function, as well. ? Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent wiping actions. ? Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll give that knob a workout. ? Cheers, ? Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi? #2261995 ? ? ? ? >Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off. ? >Hope this helps, >Ben ? _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry ? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3330 (20080805) __________ ? 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All this talk of how to deal with downpours, and all I keep thinking is that I seldom pull out Frances in the summer here in South Florida because of fear of the tin worm! I even got a dehumidifier once upon a time, but never used it in the garage. Things like engines & transmissions are easy problems to solve relative to rust repair... Am I crazy to worry about a rust problem at this level?? Scott Duval '73 CS Frances cgshawaii@netscap e.net Sent by: To bmwcsregistry-bou IVThx@comcast.net, nces@idb.ded.fore mike@valentine1.com, st.net bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net cc 08/07/2008 03:31 Subject PM Re: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question 1. Mess with the speed control knob while the wipers are running. 2. If that proves unsatisfactory, contact a pal who has a bunch of wiper relays laying about. I know of only one such person. 3. Disassemble the wiper transmission, clean and inspect the copper tabs that control the park position. Grease may be preventing proper contact. I'd bend the copper tabs to make better contact while I'm in there. 4. Acknowledge that BMW has designed and implemented yet another truly strange bit of electromechanical humbuggery, and hurl the entire problem to your mechanic. Note, I try to avoid this. That said, I have only two speeds, lack the intermittent function. But since I avoid driving in the rain, it seldom matters. Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Stan Chamallas To: 'Mike Valentine' ; 'CS Coupe Registry USA' Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 3:21 pm Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question I get only one speed out of my wipers now. Any thoughts on how I get the intermittent and slow back? Stan (Embedded image moved to file: pic31673.jpg) -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Mike Valentine Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:02 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question -----Original Message----- From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM To: Mike Valentine Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Time forastupid question Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window switch. All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out is slow, two out is fast. Ben, Thanks for the tip! I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did. Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it had some sort of variable function, as well. Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent wiping actions. Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll give that knob a workout. Cheers, Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi #2261995 >Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off. >Hope this helps, >Ben _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3330 (20080805) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3330 (20080805) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry It's time to go back to school! Get the latest trends and gadgets that make the grade on AOL Shopping. _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic31673.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 78398 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080807/371de82d/pic31673-0001.jpg From wbraveheartw at comcast.net Thu Aug 7 19:16:55 2008 From: wbraveheartw at comcast.net (bill wallace) Date: Thu Aug 7 19:16:43 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14203b955c664e58774ef0c5880e1e62@comcast.net> you aren't the only one...I won't drive even if there are grey clouds in the sky. My 74 3.0CS has not seen one drop of rain in the 9 years I've owned her, and living in NJ means she has to spend more time in the garage than she should but...such is life. It's more fun to drive when the weather is nice anyway. Bill #4310008, webers, sunroof, crane ignition On Aug 7, 2008, at 6:34 PM, SDuval@trialgraphix.com wrote: > I was wondering if I was the only "wimp" who doesn't drive his coupe > in the > rain? All this talk of how to deal with downpours, and all I keep > thinking > is that I seldom pull out Frances in the summer here in South Florida > because of fear of the tin worm! I even got a dehumidifier once upon a > time, but never used it in the garage. > > Things like engines & transmissions are easy problems to solve > relative to > rust repair... Am I crazy to worry about a rust problem at this > level?? > > Scott Duval > '73 CS Frances > > > > > cgshawaii@netscap > e.net > Sent by: > To > bmwcsregistry-bou IVThx@comcast.net, > nces@idb.ded.fore mike@valentine1.com, > st.net bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net > > cc > > 08/07/2008 03:31 > Subject > PM Re: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things > have > been quiet on the list - > Timeforastupid question > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Mess with the speed control knob while the wipers are running. > 2. If that proves unsatisfactory, contact a pal who has a bunch of > wiper > relays laying about. I know of only one such person. > 3. Disassemble the wiper transmission, clean and inspect the copper > tabs > that control the park position. Grease may be preventing proper > contact. > I'd bend the copper tabs to make better contact while I'm in there. > 4. Acknowledge that BMW has designed and implemented yet another truly > strange bit of electromechanical humbuggery, and hurl the entire > problem to > your mechanic. Note, I try to avoid this. > > That said, I have only two speeds, lack the intermittent function. But > since I avoid driving in the rain, it seldom matters. > > Charlie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stan Chamallas > To: 'Mike Valentine' ; 'CS Coupe Registry USA' > > Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 3:21 pm > Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - > Timeforastupid question > > I get only one speed out of my wipers now. > Any thoughts on how I get the intermittent and slow back? > Stan > > (Embedded image moved to file: pic31673.jpg) > > -----Original Message----- > From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto: > bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Mike Valentine > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:02 PM > To: CS Coupe Registry USA > Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - > Timeforastupid question > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM > To: Mike Valentine > Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - > Time forastupid question > > > Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window > switch. All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out > is slow, two out is fast. > > Ben, > > Thanks for the tip! > > I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did. > > Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it > had > some sort of variable function, as well. > > Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent > wiping actions. > > Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll > give that knob a workout. > > Cheers, > > Mike in Cincinnati > '72 CSi #2261995 > > > > >> Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off. > >> Hope this helps, >> Ben > > _______________________________________________ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3330 (20080805) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3330 (20080805) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > _______________________________________________ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry > > It's time to go back to school! Get the latest trends and gadgets that > make > the grade on AOL Shopping. > _______________________________________________ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/ > bmwcsregistry____________________________________________ > ___ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From art at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 8 09:55:52 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 8 09:55:41 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Re: [BMW_E21_Digest] Let there be .... In-Reply-To: <10ea01c8f887$2e218040$6001a8c0@DGNPHLB1> References: <10ea01c8f887$2e218040$6001a8c0@DGNPHLB1> Message-ID: Happy Mid Summer to All. Anybody want to save a few bucks by sharing the cost of lodging at O'fest (if you already have one booked) for 9/23 & 9/24? I would like to show Ilse at the Concours and meet some folks I have known since 1972. Circumstances require I pass on the rest of the fun this time around. Seems like all lodging between Albany and Buffalo is already sold out. I've done the couch or floor bit before. Thanks for the info on fog lights, Bill. The question is, are they really FOG lights or more of those extra lamps almost every new model now has and which are so often run fog or no fog by half the jerks on the road because they look so cool - even if they make it a bit dangerous for oncoming traffic. Art oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo Art Wegweiser, BMWCCA Member #12163 Registrar, BMW CS Registry,USA art@bmwcsregistry.org http://www.bmwcsregistry.org Erik Wegweiser, Webmeister Ilse 72 3.0 CSi 2 262 736 Fjord & Polaris Neu -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080808/57cf93c8/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 8 09:57:12 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 8 09:56:57 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com><1F92569BC647DC4FA3D 6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: My headlight switch does have a twist (rotate clockwise) to change dash lights from dim to a little less than dim. And be, be careful you don't twist the knob off. Art At 11:05 AM -0400 8/7/08, Mike Valentine wrote: >Charlie, > >"Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" >function." > >Roger, roger on the twisting action ;) > >My faulty memory led me to think that the knob in question had some sort >of twist action to it. > >It does not twist and I won't be trying to twist it in the future! I >confirmed this by trying it again yesterday just before the transporter >arrived to take it to California for the BMWV&CCCA 2008 Marathon. > >Thanks to all who answered my query. > >Cheers, > >Mike in Cincinnati >'72 CSi #2261995 > >-----Original Message----- >From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net >[mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, >Charlie >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:29 PM >To: CS Coupe Registry USA >Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list >-Timeforastupid question > >Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" >function. > >- Charlie >_ -- From dbower at uga.edu Fri Aug 8 10:07:35 2008 From: dbower at uga.edu (Don Bower) Date: Fri Aug 8 10:07:19 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> Message-ID: <738227d0808080707g2a9e1426wdd62376d723dc474@mail.gmail.com> And as this thread continues, has anyone dissected a headlight switch in an effort to improve the instrument lighting? I assume it is a rheostat that was not designed to rheo much past 30 years or so. Do new switches correct the dim-bulb syndrome? Are new switches even available? Is this part shared with 2002's? So many questions... Don On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Art Wegweiser wrote: > My headlight switch does have a twist (rotate clockwise) to change dash > lights from dim to a little less than dim. > And be, be careful you don't twist the knob off. > Art > > > At 11:05 AM -0400 8/7/08, Mike Valentine wrote: > >> Charlie, >> >> "Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" >> function." >> >> Roger, roger on the twisting action ;) >> >> My faulty memory led me to think that the knob in question had some sort >> of twist action to it. >> >> It does not twist and I won't be trying to twist it in the future! I >> confirmed this by trying it again yesterday just before the transporter >> arrived to take it to California for the BMWV&CCCA 2008 Marathon. >> >> Thanks to all who answered my query. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mike in Cincinnati >> '72 CSi #2261995 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net >> [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, >> Charlie >> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:29 PM >> To: CS Coupe Registry USA >> Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list >> -Timeforastupid question >> >> Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" >> function. >> - Charlie >> _ >> > > -- > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080808/e3cc00c6/attachment.html From briblett at comcast.net Fri Aug 8 11:01:29 2008 From: briblett at comcast.net (Bill Riblett) Date: Fri Aug 8 10:59:05 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <738227d0808080707g2a9e1426wdd62376d723dc474@mail.gmail.com> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com><5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM><1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <738227d0808080707g2a9e1426wdd62376d723dc474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301c8f967$a33beba0$6401a8c0@DGRW0241> You should be able to replace the instrument lighting bulbs with higher wattage bulbs. I did this on my 635, replacing the original 3 Watt bulbs with 5 Watt bulbs and saw a noticeable difference. Sorry I don't have part numbers, but you should be able to take one of your old bulbs to an auto parts store and find something similar. Bill _____ From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Don Bower Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:08 AM Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: Re: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question And as this thread continues, has anyone dissected a headlight switch in an effort to improve the instrument lighting? I assume it is a rheostat that was not designed to rheo much past 30 years or so. Do new switches correct the dim-bulb syndrome? Are new switches even available? Is this part shared with 2002's? So many questions... Don On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Art Wegweiser wrote: My headlight switch does have a twist (rotate clockwise) to change dash lights from dim to a little less than dim. And be, be careful you don't twist the knob off. Art At 11:05 AM -0400 8/7/08, Mike Valentine wrote: Charlie, "Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function." Roger, roger on the twisting action ;) My faulty memory led me to think that the knob in question had some sort of twist action to it. It does not twist and I won't be trying to twist it in the future! I confirmed this by trying it again yesterday just before the transporter arrived to take it to California for the BMWV&CCCA 2008 Marathon. Thanks to all who answered my query. Cheers, Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi #2261995 -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, Charlie Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:29 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list -Timeforastupid question Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function. - Charlie _ -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080808/a1e4303f/attachment.html From CPeavey at HPTI.com Fri Aug 8 12:33:39 2008 From: CPeavey at HPTI.com (Peavey, Charlie) Date: Fri Aug 8 12:32:59 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <001301c8f967$a33beba0$6401a8c0@DGRW0241> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com><5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM><1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com><738227d0808080707g2a9e1426wdd62376d723dc474@mail.gmail.com> <001301c8f967$a33beba0$6401a8c0@DGRW0241> Message-ID: <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9A98@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> I replaced mine with Halogen bulbs that I ordered from Mesa, the same bulbs used in the Osram Copilot map lights. I think they're 5W. Much whiter than stock. I've been running them for many years now with no problems except that the dimmer doesn't have the fine control that it used to - probably the rheostat resistance is mismatched to the load on it. Charlie ________________________________ From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Bill Riblett Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:01 AM To: 'Don Bower' Cc: 'CS Coupe Registry USA' Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question You should be able to replace the instrument lighting bulbs with higher wattage bulbs. I did this on my 635, replacing the original 3 Watt bulbs with 5 Watt bulbs and saw a noticeable difference. Sorry I don't have part numbers, but you should be able to take one of your old bulbs to an auto parts store and find something similar. Bill ________________________________ From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Don Bower Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:08 AM Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: Re: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question And as this thread continues, has anyone dissected a headlight switch in an effort to improve the instrument lighting? I assume it is a rheostat that was not designed to rheo much past 30 years or so. Do new switches correct the dim-bulb syndrome? Are new switches even available? Is this part shared with 2002's? So many questions... Don On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Art Wegweiser wrote: My headlight switch does have a twist (rotate clockwise) to change dash lights from dim to a little less than dim. And be, be careful you don't twist the knob off. Art At 11:05 AM -0400 8/7/08, Mike Valentine wrote: Charlie, "Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function." Roger, roger on the twisting action ;) My faulty memory led me to think that the knob in question had some sort of twist action to it. It does not twist and I won't be trying to twist it in the future! I confirmed this by trying it again yesterday just before the transporter arrived to take it to California for the BMWV&CCCA 2008 Marathon. Thanks to all who answered my query. Cheers, Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi #2261995 -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, Charlie Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:29 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list -Timeforastupid question Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function. - Charlie _ -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080808/c30b7372/attachment.html From res076bb at verizon.net Fri Aug 8 13:23:51 2008 From: res076bb at verizon.net (gary.jane) Date: Fri Aug 8 13:23:11 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <738227d0808080707g2a9e1426wdd62376d723dc474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002101c8f97b$871c1f80$72966f47@mediacenter> I did take my head light switch out last year - just to see what it looked like. I discovered that mine was originally wired incorrectly. There are multiple female slots in the body - some activated by the first switch detent ("pull"), some by the second detent, some with rheostat control. Note: if you are wiring some accessory lights, using the first or second detent-activated slots is an easy way to control activation of such add-ons. Too bad I discovered this AFTER I hard-wired in my accessory gauges' display lighting! Yes, the switch has a "spring like" rheostat. I sprayed the switch liberally with some electronic parts cleaner. 35 years of dust, dirt, and oil residue (from what/where I cannot imagine) came running out. After re-installation, I did not notice a marked increase in dash light illumination, but the rheostat just "has" to be working more efficiently, as well as all of the internal switch contacts. I'd recommend this procedure to every coupe owner. Until I get the chance to see a 2002 or E3 switch close up, I cannot verify parts interchangeability. Gary Burke 1973 3.0 CS +2240356+ ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Bower Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question And as this thread continues, has anyone dissected a headlight switch in an effort to improve the instrument lighting? I assume it is a rheostat that was not designed to rheo much past 30 years or so. Do new switches correct the dim-bulb syndrome? Are new switches even available? Is this part shared with 2002's? So many questions... Don On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Art Wegweiser wrote: My headlight switch does have a twist (rotate clockwise) to change dash lights from dim to a little less than dim. And be, be careful you don't twist the knob off. Art At 11:05 AM -0400 8/7/08, Mike Valentine wrote: Charlie, "Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function." Roger, roger on the twisting action ;) My faulty memory led me to think that the knob in question had some sort of twist action to it. It does not twist and I won't be trying to twist it in the future! I confirmed this by trying it again yesterday just before the transporter arrived to take it to California for the BMWV&CCCA 2008 Marathon. Thanks to all who answered my query. Cheers, Mike in Cincinnati '72 CSi #2261995 -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, Charlie Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:29 PM To: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list -Timeforastupid question Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" function. - Charlie _ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080808/f628e037/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 8 14:55:24 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 8 14:55:08 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Water & Coupe + Political Commentary of Fuel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott, If you live in South Florida then rain seems to come with the territory - not to mention hurricanes. Here in NW PA we seem to get just the right amount of rain - the West doesn't get enough and other parts of our Nation get too much. Even without wildfires, earthquakes, landslides, tornadoes and volcanoes, this is not paradise - we do get a blizzard now and then. People from CA and FL would not like them. I am not that concerned about rain but I am about road salt. That will eat the life out of a Coupe in months. I even avoid that dry white dust on the road before a good Spring rain gets rid of it Sweet corn here is now down to $2 a dozen - apparently the government mandated ethanol fiasco hasn't hit here yet. Our hard working local farmers produce food and feed - not bonanzas for midwest corporate agriculture that pushed this through. Even solid GOP Texas is bitching because of diversion of corn from feed for their livestock. Amazing when your own people bite you in the ass! A much more efficient source of Ethanol is sugar cane but we tax the hell out of it from South America to protect giant Conagra and ADM - maybe a few small independent farmers who are left. So much for competition. Besides, BMW has repeatedly warned than Ethanol will destroy the rubber hose lines on our older vehicles. Art At 6:34 PM -0400 8/7/08, SDuval@trialgraphix.com wrote: >I was wondering if I was the only "wimp" who doesn't drive his coupe in the >rain? All this talk of how to deal with downpours, and all I keep thinking >is that I seldom pull out Frances in the summer here in South Florida >because of fear of the tin worm! I even got a dehumidifier once upon a >time, but never used it in the garage. > >Things like engines & transmissions are easy problems to solve relative to >rust repair... Am I crazy to worry about a rust problem at this level?? > >Scott Duval >'73 CS Frances > -- From art at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 8 14:58:18 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 8 14:58:02 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question In-Reply-To: <738227d0808080707g2a9e1426wdd62376d723dc474@mail.gmail.com> References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <5045A4D718CAB644BA24979206486B60041E9880@hptimail03.HPTI.COM> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C802506778@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <738227d0808080707g2a9e1426wdd62376d723dc474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Don, My humble opinion? Leave it be if it works. If you get enough light to see your gas gauge, speedometer, (very important since almost every State is running a budget deficit and use their law enforcement folks to help make it up while protecting you, of course) temp and oil pressure (oops, never mind, the Ultimate Machine doesn't have one). As our Coupes continue die due to accident, old age and neglect, parts such as that switch should be available. The part probably is the same as a 2002 and even more likely an E3 - but don't say I sent you. Art At 10:07 AM -0400 8/8/08, Don Bower wrote: >And as this thread continues, has anyone dissected a headlight >switch in an effort to improve the instrument lighting? I assume it >is a rheostat that was not designed to rheo much past 30 years or >so. Do new switches correct the dim-bulb syndrome? Are new >switches even available? Is this part shared with 2002's? So many >questions... > >Don > -- From dbower at uga.edu Fri Aug 8 15:12:11 2008 From: dbower at uga.edu (Don Bower) Date: Fri Aug 8 15:11:54 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] headlight switch Message-ID: <738227d0808081212i4f8bdc81yb6eea499f7244efc@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Art. "Works," of course, is a relative term here. I can find a tiny sweet spot on the rheostat where I get only a hint of illumination. Given that we wouldn't have these cars anyway if we weren't all inveterate tinkerers, I think I'll try Gary's approach of trying to clean it. Going to 5w bulbs sounds like it would help too, but that would probably overwhelm something else running on 36-year-old wires. Of course, with my luck, I'll remove the switch and it will crumble in my hands... Don On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Art Wegweiser wrote: > Don, > My humble opinion? Leave it be if it works. If you get enough light to see > your gas gauge, speedometer, (very important since almost every State is > running a budget deficit and use their law enforcement folks to help make it > up while protecting you, of course) temp and oil pressure (oops, never mind, > the Ultimate Machine doesn't have one). > > As our Coupes continue die due to accident, old age and neglect, parts > such as that switch should be available. > > The part probably is the same as a 2002 and even more likely an E3 - but > don't say I sent you. > Art > > At 10:07 AM -0400 8/8/08, Don Bower wrote: > >> And as this thread continues, has anyone dissected a headlight switch in >> an effort to improve the instrument lighting? I assume it is a rheostat >> that was not designed to rheo much past 30 years or so. Do new switches >> correct the dim-bulb syndrome? Are new switches even available? Is this >> part shared with 2002's? So many questions... >> >> Don >> >> > -- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://localhost/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080808/1546aa9a/attachment-0001.html From knowtree at aloha.com Fri Aug 8 12:36:17 2008 From: knowtree at aloha.com (knowtree@aloha.com) Date: Fri Aug 8 18:36:03 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question Message-ID: <200808082236.m78MaGlo022598@yoda.pixi.com> The night must have been a lot darker back then. Gary Dunn Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.net/ 73 BMW E9 (3.0 CS) 2213583 (rust repair research project) http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ > You should be able to replace the instrument lighting bulbs with higher > wattage bulbs. I did this on my 635, replacing the original 3 Watt bulbs > with 5 Watt bulbs and saw a noticeable difference. Sorry I don't have part > numbers, but you should be able to take one of your old bulbs to an auto > parts store and find something similar. > Bill > > _____ > > From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net > [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Don Bower > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 10:08 AM > Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA > Subject: Re: [BMWCSRegistry] Timeforastupid question > > > And as this thread continues, has anyone dissected a headlight switch in an > effort to improve the instrument lighting? I assume it is a rheostat that > was not designed to rheo much past 30 years or so. Do new switches correct > the dim-bulb syndrome? Are new switches even available? Is this part > shared with 2002's? So many questions... > > Don > > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Art Wegweiser wrote: > > > My headlight switch does have a twist (rotate clockwise) to change dash > lights from dim to a little less than dim. > And be, be careful you don't twist the knob off. > Art > > > At 11:05 AM -0400 8/7/08, Mike Valentine wrote: > > > Charlie, > > "Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" > function." > > Roger, roger on the twisting action ;) > > My faulty memory led me to think that the knob in question had some sort > of twist action to it. > > It does not twist and I won't be trying to twist it in the future! I > confirmed this by trying it again yesterday just before the transporter > arrived to take it to California for the BMWV&CCCA 2008 Marathon. > > Thanks to all who answered my query. > > Cheers, > > Mike in Cincinnati > '72 CSi #2261995 > > -----Original Message----- > From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net > [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Peavey, > Charlie > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:29 PM > To: CS Coupe Registry USA > Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list > -Timeforastupid question > > Careful with that twist action. It might be the "remove the knob" > function. > - Charlie > _ > > > > -- > > > > > From francisbailey at comcast.net Sat Aug 9 20:35:22 2008 From: francisbailey at comcast.net (Frank W. Bailey) Date: Sat Aug 9 20:33:50 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Rear Window Motor Message-ID: <002d01c8fa80$fa0f3e40$0202a8c0@FRANK> Trying to lower the rear window, I only hear a faint clicking sound. The wiring diagram looks to me that the motor only sees a reversal of voltage to raise or lower the window. Both switches are acting the same (console and rear seat) Are the mechanical parts inside stuck? The window worked last week. I started to look at how to get in there. Is there a trick to getting the back seat out? Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080809/cf114d85/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Sat Aug 9 21:46:17 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Sat Aug 9 21:46:23 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Rear Window Motor In-Reply-To: <002d01c8fa80$fa0f3e40$0202a8c0@FRANK> References: <002d01c8fa80$fa0f3e40$0202a8c0@FRANK> Message-ID: Frank, There is most certainly no trick to removing the back seat. It lifts right up and out in under 30 seconds. One of the few things that Karmann forgot to make really difficult. I suspect you have a lot of accumulated crud on the window lift tracks. These need cleaning and new lube - white lithium grease is an option. Then see what happens. Art oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo oo=00=oo Art Wegweiser, BMWCCA Member #12163 Registrar, BMW CS Registry,USA art@bmwcsregistry.org http://www.bmwcsregistry.org Erik Wegweiser, Webmeister Ilse 72 3.0 CSi 2 262 736 Fjord & Polaris Neu Plus a Subaru to abuse in the Winter Recently owned: Puck 1987 Honda AWD Civic - Gathered unto it's ancestors having performing valiantly for years. Sophia Magnificent 1975 CSi - Gone to Europe for an offer I could not resist. Red Hulk Ford F150 Whose year I forget. Donated to the Edsel Memorial - piece of shit gallery. . At 8:35 PM -0400 8/9/08, Frank W. Bailey wrote: >Trying to lower the rear window, I only hear a faint clicking sound. >The wiring diagram looks to me that the motor only sees a reversal >of voltage to raise or lower the window. Both switches are acting >the same (console and rear seat) Are the mechanical parts inside >stuck? The window worked last week. I started to look at how to get >in there. Is there a trick to getting the back seat out? Thanks in >advance. -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080809/cb6814f0/attachment.html From cgshawaii at netscape.net Sun Aug 10 03:54:21 2008 From: cgshawaii at netscape.net (cgshawaii@netscape.net) Date: Sun Aug 10 03:54:32 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Rear Window Motor In-Reply-To: References: <002d01c8fa80$fa0f3e40$0202a8c0@FRANK> Message-ID: <8CAC8D56EDB97A3-960-CB7@webmail-ne20.sysops.aol.com> ?Hey Frank... as noted by Art, the rear seats just tilt forward and lift out.? That's all there is to it. Windows get stuck if not used, it's just one of those coupe things.? First thing to do is play with the switch a bit, see if it goes down.? You are right that it's only polarity reversal on these little DC motors that makes 'em go up or down.? But they get gummed up with age - either the window track grease coagulates and becomes too stiff for the motor to move against, or the window is jammed in the "up" position, or the switch is gummed.? The switches can be taken apart if you're careful.? The chrome section can be popped off the black rectangular section - there are four "teeth" in the black that are a squeeze fit into the chrome part.? Careful, though, our the holes in the chromed section will bust, and you'll have to epoxy it all back together.? There are only three pieces in the switch, plust the black box part, chrome top section and black rocker, so reassembly is pretty simple.? I was just into one last week... but too much epoxy and it's now just for decoration.? I gotta do serious surgery on that one... but switches were lately on ebay for ten clams apiece, and others have spares too. Windows usually get stuck in the up position.? Reason is, I think, that you hold down the switch and they run full speed into the top track, wedging themselves into it and stressing the entire regulator assembly.? At that point, you need to remove the side panel (it just lifts off, but is sticky), hold your finger?on the switch, and reach in and help the gear assembly along.? It's been a while since I went in the back windows (and I need to again) but there may be additional information in the tech section of this list, or use the search function on www.e9coupe.com.? Pretty active group there, all of Art's list plus many more. Hope this helps Charlie Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Art Wegweiser To: Frank W. Bailey ; bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net Sent: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 3:46 pm Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Rear Window Motor Frank, There is most certainly no trick to removing the back seat. It lifts right up and out in under 30 seconds. One of the few things that Karmann forgot to make really difficult. I suspect you have a lot of accumulated crud on the window lift tracks. These need cleaning and new lube - white lithium grease is an option. Then see what happens. Art oo=00=oo? oo=00=oo? oo=00=oo? oo=00=oo? oo=00=oo? oo=00=oo Art Wegweiser, BMWCCA Member #12163 Registrar, BMW CS Registry,USA art@bmwcsregistry.org http://www.bmwcsregistry.org Erik Wegweiser, Webmeister ?? Ilse???????? 72 3.0 CSi?? 2 262 736?? Fjord & Polaris Neu Plus a Subaru to abuse in the Winter Recently owned: Puck? 1987 Honda AWD Civic - Gathered unto it's ancestors having performing valiantly for years. Sophia????? Magnificent 1975 CSi - Gone to Europe for an offer I could not resist. Red Hulk? Ford F150 Whose year I forget. Donated to the Edsel Memorial -? piece of shit gallery. . At 8:35 PM -0400 8/9/08, Frank W. Bailey wrote: Trying to lower the rear window, I only hear a faint clicking sound. The wiring diagram looks to me that the motor only sees a reversal of voltage to raise or lower the window. Both switches are acting the same (console and rear seat) Are the mechanical parts inside stuck? The window worked last week. I started to look at how to get in there. Is there a trick to getting the back seat out? Thanks in advance. -- _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080810/52eb0b98/attachment.html From robertkort at chartermi.net Sun Aug 10 16:30:51 2008 From: robertkort at chartermi.net (Robert Kort) Date: Sun Aug 10 16:31:10 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch References: <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066BA@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <1F92569BC647DC4FA3D6CD2BA3F5A0C8025066D2@vr-exchange.valentine1.com> <8CAC612590AAC6C-830-6F2F@WEBMAIL-NG17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <008301c8fb27$fca5cdc0$6601a8c0@yoursgz3xpngo4> yours is broken ----- Original Message ----- From: jmlaughead@aol.com To: art@bmwcsregistry.org ; bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch And the old(er) cars don't even have an intermittent function (or maybe mine has just been broken the whole time I have owned it). Jim -----Original Message----- From: Art Wegweiser To: Mike Valentine ; CS Coupe Registry USA Cc: bent@lucien.blight.com Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 1:56 pm Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Correct Mike & Ben but only sometimes. You forget that Hans und Dieter changed specifications whenever they felt like it. Especially after Heidi came around with her beer cart. Punching the right side stick (also turn signal - quite the opposite of later schemes - makes it a minor problem when I drive the Subaru)) on Ilse turns on the wiper BUT for intermittent only. If I want slow (which is very slow), I use the pull knob below the left window (rear only, no front electric exists on a CSi) switch - two clicks out if I want slow(which is really very slow). For fast (which is simple slow) I use one click out. Not intuitive but ... Best suggestion - in a really heavy rain, find an overpass, turn on your flashers and locate some good program on your local NPR station. On some Coupes that knob does other things which I forget. Hey if anybody hasn't discovered the simple secret of having the wipers return to all the way down position when shut off, let me know. No charge for this although sharing the cost of an already reserved lodging for just a couple of days at Watkins Glen O'fest gladly accepted. Everything seems booked up at substantial prices between Albany and Buffalo. Lots of unlabeled things in Coupes. Play with those three buttons on the under dash panel and see what they do. I advise against attempting to twist any switch except maybe the headlight thing which will give you very dim and not so dim gauge lights. Art At 9:02 PM -0400 8/5/08, Mike Valentine wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Ben Thongsai [mailto:bent@lucien.blight.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:47 PM >To: Mike Valentine >Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] RE:Things have been quiet on the list - >Time forastupid question > > >Wiper speed is controlled by the knob below the left rear window >switch. All the way in should be intermittent, one notch out >is slow, two out is fast. > >Ben, > >Thanks for the tip! > >I saw that unlabeled knob and wondered what it did. > >Besides pulling out for two different stops, it also twists as if it had >some sort of variable function, as well. > >Maybe the twist adjustment varies the pause between the intermittent >wiping actions. > >Anyway, if it rains again while driving (shudder the thought!), I'll >give that knob a workout. > >Cheers, > >Mike in Cincinnati >'72 CSi #2261995 > > > > >>Push in on the turn signal stalk to turn the wipers on and off. > >>Hope this helps, > >Ben -- _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's time to go back to school! Get the latest trends and gadgets that make the grade on AOL Shopping. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080810/a345f86a/attachment.html From Coupecs at aol.com Sun Aug 10 17:50:49 2008 From: Coupecs at aol.com (Coupecs@aol.com) Date: Sun Aug 10 17:51:00 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Message-ID: On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was built. the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly they are for the windows. I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when the windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. This probably won't help much but one never knows. Steve ONeill 74 CSi **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080810/ab653e6b/attachment.html From francisbailey at comcast.net Sun Aug 10 20:31:45 2008 From: francisbailey at comcast.net (Frank W. Bailey) Date: Sun Aug 10 20:30:06 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Rear Window Fixed Message-ID: <000801c8fb49$a2ecee40$0202a8c0@FRANK> Thanks for help from all of you. I did end up taking out the seat and side panel. There was a paper covering the opening and the gear you told me I would find. Once the paper was out, I could "help" the gear. Three or four trys and window works again! Which is good. That does not look like the most straight foward window motor I ever saw. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Art At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: >On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four >windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or >armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the assembly >line when my car was built. > >the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. > >The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk >and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and a >bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. > >There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering column >about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these referred to >as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly they are for >the windows. > >I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when the >windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. > >This probably won't help much but one never knows. > >Steve ONeill 74 CSi > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080811/d6d1c503/attachment.html From RJohnM3 at aol.com Tue Aug 12 10:24:43 2008 From: RJohnM3 at aol.com (RJohnM3@aol.com) Date: Tue Aug 12 10:24:43 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] 2800 CS Message-ID: Folks, JFYI JoElla/Richard John's 2800CS just sold to a friend for $6K. It has a great new home. Has locking Alpina wheels and is in real good shape except a bit of body rust. JoElla **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim Muir _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080812/a28efe78/attachment.html From lensoccolich at mac.com Tue Aug 12 15:26:57 2008 From: lensoccolich at mac.com (Len Soccolich) Date: Tue Aug 12 15:27:03 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Tire Size Message-ID: <39AAB320-8B59-4454-B92B-CCA56695D0FA@mac.com> All, Trying to make a decision re: new tires. I currently have Michelin 195 70 14s on the stock rims of my US-spec. '74 CS. I'm hearing that 205 70 and 215 70 will also fit. The car has not been lowered, but does have Bilstein shocks. Looking forward to reading the group's advice... Thanks. Len From MikeUra at aol.com Tue Aug 12 17:01:57 2008 From: MikeUra at aol.com (MikeUra@aol.com) Date: Tue Aug 12 17:01:51 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Tire Size Message-ID: I have Toyo 205x60 on stock 14" Alpina 7" wheels. No problems In a message dated 8/12/2008 2:27:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lensoccolich@mac.com writes: All, Trying to make a decision re: new tires. I currently have Michelin 195 70 14s on the stock rims of my US-spec. '74 CS. I'm hearing that 205 70 and 215 70 will also fit. The car has not been lowered, but does have Bilstein shocks. Looking forward to reading the group's advice... Thanks. Len _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080812/994c9446/attachment.html From the-hound at juno.com Tue Aug 12 17:38:26 2008 From: the-hound at juno.com (the-hound@juno.com) Date: Tue Aug 12 17:39:19 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Tire Size Message-ID: <20080812.173826.16836.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Hello Len: I have Michelin 225-60-14" on my '74 CS and they are great. In the future my tires will have to be 215-60-14 or I have to purchase either 15" or 16' wheels to mount larger tires. By the way, I think I found the last five (5) 225-60-14 tires that were available last year. The Hound "In The Last Colony" -- Len Soccolich wrote: All, Trying to make a decision re: new tires. I currently have Michelin 195 70 14s on the stock rims of my US-spec. '74 CS. I'm hearing that 205 70 and 215 70 will also fit. The car has not been lowered, but does have Bilstein shocks. Looking forward to reading the group's advice... Thanks. Len _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry ____________________________________________________________ It's easy to receive faxes via email. Click now to find out how! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nAxEatj1PyOGdN1mqZhwX28UZxOXfGQpYS56YDbcCTeLpEr/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080812/ef9538f3/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 15 09:40:07 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 15 09:39:50 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: <8CACC55C3069BEB-78C-1674@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CACC55C3069BEB-78C-1674@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thanks Charlie, But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. Art At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: >No Art, I believe euro regulations specified only one rear fog... >for certain countries, perhaps at certain times. it wasn't a "save >a pfennig" situation. > >My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant >(whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. >Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the >single rear fog light. > >Charlie > >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. >Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc access thru the panel to >the window device so that with a lot of patience and wearing a glove >to avoid losing skin, you can turn the plastic gear and shut the >window by hand. >Some coupes do have circuit breakers - little red buttons under the >dash - that operate windows.Supposedly push to reset after a cool >down time. This one drove me crazy in my former 75 CSi Coupe now in >Switzerland. > >The three gumdrop buttons under my dash are for emergency flashers; >rear window defrost; and rear left red fog light (only one - Munich >saving pfennig again). >Art > >At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: > >>On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four >>windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or >>armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the assembly >>line when my car was built. >> >> >> >>the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. >> >> >> >>The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk >>and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and >>a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. >> >> >> >>There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering column >>about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these referred >>to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly they are >>for the windows. >> >> >> >>I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when the >>windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. >> >> >> >>This probably won't help much but one never knows. >> >> >> >>Steve ONeill 74 CSi -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080815/efebe610/attachment.html From danielmleblanc at verizon.net Fri Aug 15 11:44:26 2008 From: danielmleblanc at verizon.net (DANIEL LEBLANC) Date: Fri Aug 15 11:44:28 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: References: <8CACC55C3069BEB-78C-1674@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I heard the reason for it was so when you were disabled or parked it served as a low current draw hazard lamp. Danimal _____ From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Art Wegweiser Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:40 AM To: cgshawaii@netscape.net Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Thanks Charlie, But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. Art At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: No Art, I believe euro regulations specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig" situation. My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant (whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the single rear fog light. Charlie >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc access thru the panel to the window device so that with a lot of patience and wearing a glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the plastic gear and shut the window by hand. Some coupes do have circuit breakers - little red buttons under the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly push to reset after a cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my former 75 CSi Coupe now in Switzerland. The three gumdrop buttons under my dash are for emergency flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog light (only one - Munich saving pfennig again). Art At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was built. the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly they are for the windows. I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when the windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. This probably won't help much but one never knows. Steve ONeill 74 CSi -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080815/3baed8ce/attachment.html From dowstie at msn.com Fri Aug 15 12:41:02 2008 From: dowstie at msn.com (Jonathan Dowst) Date: Fri Aug 15 12:40:41 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: References: <8CACC55C3069BEB-78C-1674@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I hate to break it to you, but in this case our bimmers aren't unique; Volvo does it too... Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:44:26 -0400From: danielmleblanc@verizon.netSubject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper SwitchTo: art@bmwcsregistry.org; bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.netCC: I heard the reason for it was so when you were disabled or parked it served as a low current draw hazard lamp. Danimal From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Art WegweiserSent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:40 AMTo: cgshawaii@netscape.netCc: CS Coupe Registry USASubject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Thanks Charlie, But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. Art At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: No Art, I believe euro regulations specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig" situation.My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant (whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the single rear fog light. Charlie >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc access thru the panel to the window device so that with a lot of patience and wearing a glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the plastic gear and shut the window by hand. Some coupes do have circuit breakers - little red buttons under the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly push to reset after a cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my former 75 CSi Coupe now in Switzerland. The three gumdrop buttons under my dash are for emergency flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog light (only one - Munich saving pfennig again). Art At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was built. the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly they are for the windows. I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when the windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. This probably won't help much but one never knows. Steve ONeill 74 CSi -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080815/c8b924b6/attachment.html From ericwilhelm at cox.net Fri Aug 15 12:58:59 2008 From: ericwilhelm at cox.net (Eric Wilhelm) Date: Fri Aug 15 12:58:37 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: References: <8CACC55C3069BEB-78C-1674@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c8fef8$367c9d20$a375d760$@net> The single red fog was mandatory at one time in all of Europe. And the reason it was only one was so you would not confuse it with brake lights in bad weather. Not sure when the Europeans stopped this requirement?? The only country I know that still makes you have single rear fog light is England. Eric From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of DANIEL LEBLANC Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:44 AM To: 'Art Wegweiser'; bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch I heard the reason for it was so when you were disabled or parked it served as a low current draw hazard lamp. Danimal _____ From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Art Wegweiser Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:40 AM To: cgshawaii@netscape.net Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Thanks Charlie, But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. Art At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: No Art, I believe euro regulations specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig" situation. My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant (whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the single rear fog light. Charlie >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc access thru the panel to the window device so that with a lot of patience and wearing a glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the plastic gear and shut the window by hand. Some coupes do have circuit breakers - little red buttons under the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly push to reset after a cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my former 75 CSi Coupe now in Switzerland. The three gumdrop buttons under my dash are for emergency flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog light (only one - Munich saving pfennig again). Art At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was built. the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly they are for the windows. I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when the windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. This probably won't help much but one never knows. Steve ONeill 74 CSi -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080815/aa2c3e97/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Fri Aug 15 17:59:55 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Fri Aug 15 17:59:38 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: References: <8CACC55C3069BEB-78C-1674@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: At 11:44 AM -0400 8/15/08, DANIEL LEBLANC wrote: >I heard the reason for it was so when you were disabled or parked it >served as a low current draw hazard lamp. >Danimal Makes some sense but it seems to be a high current draw device and mine requires the ignition be left on. Not good if you have walk off from a disable machine. A Euro CSi already has a low amp warning light and run by the turn light switch. In the old days they used to park with two wheels on the curb in narrow streets. - maybe still do. To activate a one side only safety light, simply leave the turn signal stick left and it stays on with the ignition off but with a little bitty bulb still working. The value of the Euro and some political things by the cretins running my country and some of theirs scared me away so I haven't been back across the shining deep sea water for a while. I hide in an Amtrak station pretending some day we will have the brains to build rail travel like Spain, France and Germany and some other parts of Europe. To give credit, however, Amtrak is improving and trying very hard besides having been stupidly starved by Congress and the Administration for years. I did three decent train runs this year from Erie to Boston and to Baltimore via NYC- details to bore you on request. The 200+mph rocket from Barcelona to Paris it was not. AMTRAK Dining car cuisine was not up to Orient Express standards (which I was once on) but neither is it "I'm Lovin' It" microwave hamburgers of mysterious origin. Art > >From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net >[mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Art >Wegweiser >Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:40 AM >To: cgshawaii@netscape.net >Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA >Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch > >Thanks Charlie, >But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. >In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running in >caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead >of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. >Art > >At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: > >>No Art, I believe euro regulations specified only one rear fog... >>for certain countries, perhaps at certain times. it wasn't a "save >>a pfennig" situation. >> >>My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant >>(whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. >>Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the >>single rear fog light. >> >>Charlie >> >> >>>From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. >> >>Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc access thru the panel to >>the window device so that with a lot of patience and wearing a >>glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the plastic gear and shut >>the window by hand. >> >>Some coupes do have circuit breakers - little red buttons under the >>dash - that operate windows.Supposedly push to reset after a cool >>down time. This one drove me crazy in my former 75 CSi Coupe now in >>Switzerland. >> >> >>The three gumdrop buttons under my dash are for emergency flashers; >>rear window defrost; and rear left red fog light (only one - Munich >>saving pfennig again). >> >>Art >> >> >>At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: >> >>>On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four >>>windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or >>>armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the >>>assembly line when my car was built. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk >>>and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and >>>a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering >>>column about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these >>>referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly >>>they are for the windows. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when >>>the windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>This probably won't help much but one never knows. >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve ONeill 74 CSi -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080815/569fc0bb/attachment-0001.html From gary at siepser.net Fri Aug 15 20:37:06 2008 From: gary at siepser.net (Gary Siepser) Date: Fri Aug 15 20:36:48 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch In-Reply-To: References: <8CACC55C3069BEB-78C-1674@webmail-nd20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <48A62132.3010703@siepser.net> This seems to be the norm in Europe. Audi does the same thing on their US products and that's what I saw on everything one foggy night in Rome this past July. Jonathan Dowst wrote: > > I hate to break it to you, but in this case our bimmers aren't unique; > Volvo does it too... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:44:26 -0400 > From: danielmleblanc@verizon.net > Subject: RE: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch > To: art@bmwcsregistry.org; bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net > CC: > > > I heard the reason for it was so when you were disabled or parked it > served as a low current draw hazard lamp. > Danimal > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net > [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] *On Behalf Of *Art > Wegweiser > *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2008 9:40 AM > *To:* cgshawaii@netscape.net > *Cc:* CS Coupe Registry USA > *Subject:* [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch > > Thanks Charlie, > But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. > In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running in > caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead of > you. It's assymetrical and brighter. > Art > > At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: > > No Art, I believe euro regulations specified only one rear fog... > for certain countries, perhaps at certain times. it wasn't a > "save a pfennig" situation. > > My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting > consultant (whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it > just now. Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some > level for the single rear fog light. > > Charlie > > > >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. > > Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc access thru the panel to > the window device so that with a lot of patience and wearing a > glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the plastic gear and shut > the window by hand. > > Some coupes do have circuit breakers - little red buttons under > the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly push to reset after a > cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my former 75 CSi Coupe > now in Switzerland. > > > The three gumdrop buttons under my dash are for emergency > flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog light (only > one - Munich saving pfennig again). > > Art > > > At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com > wrote: > > On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all > four windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door > panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi > around the assembly line when my car was built. > > > > > the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear > defroster on/off. > > > > > The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the > stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast > are slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. > > > > > There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering > column about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard > these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. > Supposedly they are for the windows. > > > > > I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them > when the windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. > > > > > This probably won't help much but one never knows. > > > > > Steve ONeill 74 CSi > > > -- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.3/1614 - Release Date: 8/15/2008 5:29 PM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From cam.holliday at sympatico.ca Sat Aug 16 00:04:46 2008 From: cam.holliday at sympatico.ca (Cameron Holliday) Date: Sat Aug 16 00:05:24 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] 3.0 Headers Message-ID: Hi Guys, looking for a decent set of headers for a vintage track car we are building with the little brother. its a 74 3.0 so if you have any ideas let me know. Thanks Cam From coupecs at aol.com Sat Aug 16 10:49:14 2008 From: coupecs at aol.com (coupecs@aol.com) Date: Sat Aug 16 10:49:13 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Art, My late lamented 2800 CS had the access holes for the window motors, and I remember something about being able to put an allen key in the hole and turn it so the window goes up or down. I am curious to know so if you or anyothers with access would try it let me know. As for the location and number of the fog lamps, I GUESS that it is there for the driver following the coupe so as to be directly in their field of vision. Anyhow, Steve ONeill -----Original Message----- From: Art Wegweiser To: cgshawaii@netscape.net Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA Sent: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 9:40 am Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch Thanks Charlie, But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. Art At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: No Art, I believe euro regulations specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig" situation. My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant (whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the single rear fog light. Charlie >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc access thru the panel to the window device so that with a lot of patience and wearing a glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the plastic gear and shut the window by hand. Some coupes do have circuit breakers - little red buttons under the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly push to reset after a cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my former 75 CSi Coupe now in Switzerland. The three gumdrop buttons under my dash are for emergency flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog light (only one - Munich saving pfennig again). Art At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was built. the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear defroster on/off. The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. There are two small red buttons to the right of the steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that means. Supposedly they are for the windows. I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing them when the windows did not move. That may have been coincidence. This probably won't help much but one never knows. Steve ONeill 74 CSi -- _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From gary at siepser.net Sun Aug 17 09:01:27 2008 From: gary at siepser.net (Gary Siepser) Date: Sun Aug 17 09:00:56 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <48A82127.7090804@siepser.net> Mine came equipped with a white plastic "nail file" that had gear teeth that matched the window motor gear. Going through the access hole, I could get to the gear, pull the "file" along the gear and get the window unjammed. Then the motor could do the job; sort of. I can't imagine what somebody at BMW was thinking in 1970 or 71. Good luck. Gary coupecs@aol.com wrote: > Art, > > My late lamented 2800 CS had the access holes for the window motors, > and I remember something about being able to put an allen key in the > hole and turn it so the window goes up or down. I am curious to know > so if you or anyothers with access would try it let me know. > > As for the location and number of the fog lamps, I GUESS that it is > there for the driver following the coupe > so as to be directly in their field of vision. > > Anyhow, > > Steve ONeill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Art Wegweiser > To: cgshawaii@netscape.net > Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA > Sent: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 9:40 am > Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch > > Thanks Charlie, > But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. > In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running > in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead > of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. > Art > > > At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: > No Art, I believe euro regulations > specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at > certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig" > situation. > > > > My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant > (whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. > Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the > single rear fog light. > > > Charlie > > > >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. > Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc > access thru the panel to the window device so that with a lot of > patience and wearing a glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the > plastic gear and shut the window by hand. > Some coupes do have circuit breakers - > little red buttons under the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly > push to reset after a cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my > former 75 CSi Coupe now in Switzerland. > > > The three gumdrop buttons under my dash > are for emergency flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog > light (only one - Munich saving pfennig again). > Art > > > At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: > > On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 > with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with > no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were > chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was > built. > > > > > > the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear > defroster on/off. > > > > > > The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end > of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are > slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. > > > > > > There are two small red buttons to the right of the > steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have > heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that > means. Supposedly they are for the windows. > > > > > > I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing > them when the windows did not move. That may have been > coincidence. > > > > > > This probably won't help much but one never > knows. > > > > > > Steve ONeill 74 CSi > > > > -- _______________________________________________ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry > > > _______________________________________________ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM > > > From art at bmwcsregistry.org Sun Aug 17 10:05:54 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Sun Aug 17 10:05:26 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Re: window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Steve et al, And yet another peculiarity of the Coupes emerges. An Allen key to use when the window motor goes belly up? This is the first of this method I've heard and now have added it to the list of changes possibly made in Munich with little, if any, notification to the owners or dealers during that long gone production year. Having driven in Europe several times, I do find many of their traffic laws and vehicle specs more logical and reasonable than ours but this one side only fog light regulation I find baffling. This would otherwise look like the right bulb is out. If another set of lights came on - that would more clearly indicate somebody is braking. As for the field of vision, I would expect this holds only if the driver is wearing eye patch. Again I inquire if anybody has an O'fest room reserved at Watkin's Glen and wants to share part of the expenses for a couple of days? I'll even bring some good beer (NOT Bud, Miller or Coors). I want to enter the Concours for display - not much more. White gloves and Q tips shall nevermore violate Ilse. Art At 10:49 AM -0400 8/16/08, coupecs@aol.com wrote: >Art, > >My late lamented 2800 CS had the access holes for the window motors, >and I remember something about being able to put an allen key in the >hole and turn it so the window goes up or down. I am curious to know >so if you or anyothers with access would try it let me know. > >As for the location and number of the fog lamps, I GUESS that it is >there for the driver following the coupeso as to be directly in >their field of vision. > >Anyhow, > >Steve ONeill > >-----Original Message----- >From: Art Wegweiser >To: cgshawaii@netscape.net >Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA >Sent: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 9:40 am >Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch > >Thanks Charlie, >But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. >In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running >in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead >of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. >Art > > >At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: >No Art, I believe euro regulations >specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at >certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig" >situation. > > > >My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant >(whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. >Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the >single rear fog light. > >Charlie > -- From Coupecs at aol.com Sun Aug 17 12:00:00 2008 From: Coupecs at aol.com (Coupecs@aol.com) Date: Sun Aug 17 12:00:11 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] window motor access/fog lamp Message-ID: Amazing, an allen key, a nail file, next thing you know it will a dildo in a velvet box. But we will never know. Steve ONeill **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080817/8e8696e6/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Sun Aug 17 16:09:38 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Sun Aug 17 16:09:11 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: <48A82127.7090804@siepser.net> References: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> <48A82127.7090804@siepser.net> Message-ID: At 9:01 AM -0400 8/17/08, Gary Siepser wrote: >Mine came equipped with a white plastic "nail file" that had >gear teeth that matched the window motor gear. Going through the >access hole, I could get to the gear, pull the "file" along the gear >and get the window unjammed. Then the motor could do the job; sort >of. I can't imagine what somebody at BMW was thinking in 1970 or >71. Good luck. >Gary Yeeks, I got forgot about the white plastic comb which isn't much of an approvement over using a protected finger to spin the gear. People have been wondering for years what the damn thing is for. Another Coupe problem solved. What is missing from the tool set is a needle nose pliers and a steady hand for changing the fuses so conveniently located where you need to get on your knees and use a flash light to wiggle these damn things into place. Have some extras at hand because as at least one will flip off into oblivion beyond the firewall. Art > >coupecs@aol.com wrote: >>Art, >> >>My late lamented 2800 CS had the access holes for the window >>motors, and I remember something about being able to put an allen >>key in the hole and turn it so the window goes up or down. I am >>curious to know >>so if you or anyothers with access would try it let me know. >> >>As for the location and number of the fog lamps, I GUESS that it is >>there for the driver following the coupe >>so as to be directly in their field of vision. >> >>Anyhow, >> >>Steve ONeill >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Art Wegweiser >>To: cgshawaii@netscape.net >>Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA >>Sent: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 9:40 am >>Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch >> >>Thanks Charlie, >>But WHY only one rear fog baffles me. >>In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running >>in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead >>of you. It's assymetrical and brighter. >>Art >> >> >>At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote: >>No Art, I believe euro regulations >>specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at >>certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig" >>situation. >> >> >> >>My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant >>(whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now. >>Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the >>single rear fog light. >> >> >>Charlie >> >> >>>From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean. >>Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc >>access thru the panel to the window device so that with a lot of >>patience and wearing a glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the >>plastic gear and shut the window by hand. >>Some coupes do have circuit breakers - >>little red buttons under the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly >>push to reset after a cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my >>former 75 CSi Coupe now in Switzerland. >> >> >>The three gumdrop buttons under my dash >>are for emergency flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog >>light (only one - Munich saving pfennig again). >>Art >> >> >>At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: >> >>On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3 >>with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with >>no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were >>chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was >>built. >> >> >> >> >> >>the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear >>defroster on/off. >> >> >> >> >> >>The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end >>of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are >>slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined. >> >> >> >> >> >>There are two small red buttons to the right of the >>steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have >>heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that >>means. Supposedly they are for the windows. >> >> >> >> >> >>I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing >>them when the windows did not move. That may have been >>coincidence. >> >> >> >> >> >>This probably won't help much but one never >>knows. >> >> >> >> >>Steve ONeill 74 CSi -- From lensoccolich at mac.com Sun Aug 17 19:35:48 2008 From: lensoccolich at mac.com (Len Soccolich) Date: Sun Aug 17 19:37:35 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E6ABB33-13F1-454F-8D18-4B54299CF0CB@mac.com> My coupe came with the plastic comb in the tool kit, but no plastic plugs in the door panels to access the gear motors... On Aug 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: > Amazing, an allen key, a nail file, next thing you know it will a > dildo in a velvet box. > > But we will never know. > > Steve ONeill > > > > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read > reviews on AOL Autos. > _______________________________________________ > Please edit the length of replies > BMWCSRegistry mailing list > BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net > http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080817/d8df9916/attachment.html From lensoccolich at mac.com Sun Aug 17 19:36:48 2008 From: lensoccolich at mac.com (Len Soccolich) Date: Sun Aug 17 19:37:35 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D335CDB-232C-45B3-9A2E-29A9ABF4477F@mac.com> My coupe came with the plastic comb in the tool kit, but no plastic plugs in the door panels to access the gear motors... On Aug 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: > Amazing, an allen key, a nail file, next thing you know it will a > dildo in a velvet box. > > But we will never know. > > Steve ONeill > > > > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? 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Steve **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080817/39fc3187/attachment.html From res076bb at verizon.net Sun Aug 17 22:16:15 2008 From: res076bb at verizon.net (gary.jane) Date: Sun Aug 17 22:15:48 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC solution - FF/WOB Message-ID: <002101c900d8$6510de30$c4876f47@mediacenter> Here's an after-market automobile AC solution that shows great ingenuity. No pesky tapping into the car's electrical system, no troublesome AC plumbing to retro-fit into the engine compartment. Elegant! I'm thinking of adding this to our coupe as a winter project. Gary Burke 1973 3.0 CS +2240356+ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 18854 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080818/4c5a028e/attachment-0001.jpe From art at bmwcsregistry.org Mon Aug 18 10:34:32 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Mon Aug 18 10:34:03 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: <8E6ABB33-13F1-454F-8D18-4B54299CF0CB@mac.com> References: <8E6ABB33-13F1-454F-8D18-4B54299CF0CB@mac.com> Message-ID: Len Seen that before. My 1975 CSi (Italian) had the plastic plugs but not aligned with the window gear so one had to unclip the bottom of the panel and fish around upward in the dark. Use care, since that cardboard/vinyl panel is likely to tear or break up. Prowl the bone yards and find a plug with or without a decent panel. Then extreme skill with an X-Acto (or scalpel if a surgeon) is needed to make a circle to receive the plug in the panel. Art STILL LOOKING TO SHARE EXPENSES FOR TWO DAYS LODGING AT O'FEST. WATKIN'S GLEN. COUCHE OR SLEEPING BAGS ACCEPTABLE. At 7:35 PM -0400 8/17/08, Len Soccolich wrote: >My coupe came with the plastic comb in the tool kit, but no plastic >plugs in the door panels to access the gear motors... >On Aug 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: > >>Amazing, an allen key, a nail file, next thing you know it will a >>dildo in a velvet box. >> >>But we will never know. >> >>Steve ONeill >> >> -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080818/eb097985/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Mon Aug 18 10:52:03 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Mon Aug 18 10:51:35 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] ADDENDUM to window track operation Message-ID: Steve, Save that dildo in a velvet box. It may be a prototype of standard equipment coming in the next 7 series - remotely operated by the iDrive system. Art >On Aug 17, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: > >>Amazing, an allen key, a nail file, next thing you know it will a >>dildo in a velvet box. >> But we will never know. >> >>Steve ONeill >> >> -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080818/73049c4f/attachment.html From art at bmwcsregistry.org Mon Aug 18 11:26:23 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Mon Aug 18 11:25:52 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Re: Fuses short and otherwise In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 10:05 PM -0400 8/17/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote: >Art, >I suppose that's what the flashlight mounted on the drop panel for >the hood release is for. Searching for dropped fuses. But then >again, the flashlights never worked possibly because they were early >rechargeable technology. The wires leading to the mount/charger >look like they could handle a small convection oven. > >Steve >True except the flashlght was sometimes mounted in the right glove >box and quite feeble at that. It is good for satisfying Concours detectives looking for all original (which constantly changed during the production year - however that began and ended) For serious work, hide a waterproof DD Duracell or similar under the seat. Also serves as mini baton. STILL LOOKNG FOR TWO DAYS SHARED LODGING AT O'FEST TO DISPLAY MY COUPE WHICH WILL BE WASHED AND DUSTED ONLY. ART -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080818/18c9fbd7/attachment.html From cgshawaii at netscape.net Mon Aug 18 16:00:18 2008 From: cgshawaii at netscape.net (cgshawaii@netscape.net) Date: Mon Aug 18 16:00:14 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Re: window motor access/fog lamp In-Reply-To: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CACDC6629C7344-D38-43D5@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CACF842C37B775-3B4-9499@WEBMAIL-NG07.sysops.aol.com> I never heard that an alley key would turn the windows, but it's supposed to work for sunroofs... anyone? Charlie -----Original Message----- From: coupecs@aol.com To: art@bmwcsregistry.org; cgshawaii@netscape.net Cc: bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net Sent: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 4:49 am Subject: window motor access/fog lamp Art,? ? My late lamented 2800 CS had the access holes for the window motors, and I remember something about being able to put an allen key in the hole and turn it so the window goes up or down. I am curious to know? so if you or anyothers with access would try it let me know.? ? As for the location and number of the fog lamps, I GUESS that it is there for the driver following the coupe? so as to be directly in their field of vision.? ? Anyhow,? ? Steve ONeill? ? -----Original Message-----? From: Art Wegweiser ? To: cgshawaii@netscape.net? Cc: CS Coupe Registry USA ? Sent: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 9:40 am? Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Wiper Switch? ? Thanks Charlie,? But WHY only one rear fog baffles me.? In any event it makes a great way to follow a Coupe when running? in caravan on a crowded road and hundreds of red tail lights are ahead? of you. It's assymetrical and brighter.? Art? ? At 2:50 PM -0400 8/14/08, cgshawaii@netscape.net wrote:? No Art, I believe euro regulations? specified only one rear fog... for certain countries, perhaps at? certain times. it wasn't a "save a pfennig"? situation.? ? ? My source is a long piece written by Dan Stern, lighting consultant? (whatever that is)... let me see... I can't find it just now.? Anyway, IIRC, he quoted european regulations at some level for the? single rear fog light.? ? Charlie? ? >From Steve's message, I guess you follow what I mean.? Fortunately Ilse does have a little disc? access thru the panel to the window device so that with a lot of? patience and wearing a glove to avoid losing skin, you can turn the? plastic gear and shut the window by hand.? Some coupes do have circuit breakers -? little red buttons under the dash - that operate windows.Supposedly? push to reset after a cool down time. This one drove me crazy in my? former 75 CSi Coupe now in Switzerland.? ? The three gumdrop buttons under my dash? are for emergency flashers; rear window defrost; and rear left red fog? light (only one - Munich saving pfennig again).? Art? ? At 5:50 PM -0400 8/10/08, Coupecs@aol.com wrote:? ? On my 1974 euro cs(carbs now a 3.3? with '73 injection) all four windows are power, drat, with? no access hole in the door panels or armrests. Schnoz and Schmoze were? chasing Heidi around the assembly line when my car was? built.? ? ? ? the pull switch below he rear pw switch turns the rear? defroster on/off.? ? ? ? The right stalk is turned on my pushing in on the end? of the stalk and there is intermittent, low and fast. Low and fast are? slow and a bit faster. Intermittent is loosely defined.? ? ? ? There are two small red buttons to the right of the? steering column about where the adjustment lever is. I have? heard these referred to as "airplane fuses" what ever that? means. Supposedly they are for the windows.? ? ? ? I do remember getting the windows to work by pressing? them when the windows did not move. That may have been? coincidence.? ? ? ? This probably won't help much but one never? knows.? ? ? ? Steve ONeill 74 CSi? ? ? -- _______________________________________________? Please edit the length of replies? BMWCSRegistry mailing list? BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net? http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080818/e87f6aa3/attachment.html From res076bb at verizon.net Mon Aug 18 19:10:49 2008 From: res076bb at verizon.net (gary.jane) Date: Mon Aug 18 19:10:33 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC solution - FF/WOB Message-ID: <003e01c90187$a85e87f0$af936f47@mediacenter> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: New AC solution.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58966 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080818/31784cf5/NewACsolution-0001.jpg From v.vanwijngaarden at planet.nl Tue Aug 19 02:24:32 2008 From: v.vanwijngaarden at planet.nl (v.vanwijngaarden@planet.nl) Date: Tue Aug 19 02:24:58 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC solution - FF/WOB References: <003e01c90187$a85e87f0$af936f47@mediacenter> Message-ID: <04422D3E99835C40B39ED7E0421AD3AB0100EA02@CPEXBE-EML18.kpnsp.local> Wow, where can I get one and are they expensive? :D -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net on behalf of gary.jane Sent: Tue 8/19/2008 1:10 AM To: coupegroup Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC solution - FF/WOB Here's an after-market automobile AC solution that shows great ingenuity. No pesky tapping into the car's electrical system, no troublesome AC plumbing to retro-fit into the engine compartment. Elegant! (Oops, must have failed to attach the picture last time. Duh/Doh!) I'm thinking of adding this to our coupe as a winter project. Gary Burke 1973 3.0 CS +2240356+ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080819/6ef0aa57/attachment.html From SDuval at trialgraphix.com Tue Aug 19 09:30:01 2008 From: SDuval at trialgraphix.com (SDuval@trialgraphix.com) Date: Tue Aug 19 09:30:05 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC solution - FF/WOB In-Reply-To: <003e01c90187$a85e87f0$af936f47@mediacenter> Message-ID: Classic. You see that kind of quality work all over Florida, but I think this qualifies as a home improvement, since they probably also live in this fine vessel. Scott '73 CS "gary.jane" To Sent by: "coupegroup" bmwcsregistry-bou nces@idb.ded.fore cc st.net Subject [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC 08/18/2008 07:11 solution - FF/WOB PM Here's an after-market automobile AC solution that shows great ingenuity. No pesky tapping into the car's electrical system, no troublesome AC plumbing to retro-fit into the engine compartment. Elegant! (Oops, must have failed to attach the picture last time. Duh/Doh!) I'm thinking of adding this to our coupe as a winter project. Gary Burke 1973 3.0 CS +2240356+[attachment "New AC solution.jpg" deleted by Scott Duval/TrialGraphix] _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From makobmw at hotmail.com Tue Aug 19 11:08:41 2008 From: makobmw at hotmail.com (Masako Ota) Date: Tue Aug 19 11:08:41 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC solution - FF/WOB In-Reply-To: References: <003e01c90187$a85e87f0$af936f47@mediacenter> Message-ID: I could see this driver must be pretty new driver since he/she put white/green magnetic sticker for brand new driver in Japan. I believe you need to leave the sticker on for one year. They do have different colored sticker for senior driver. When I drive my mom's car in Japan, I leave it on. So they stay away from me and even if I drive on the wrong side of the street (right side that is in Japan), I am forgiven. Masako '71 3.0CSi Mein Liebchen '70 2000 in restoration in our garage '85 E30 (over 370,000 miles on) '89 E30 Cabriolet '92 300E 4-matic "HOR AUF" my daily baby '98 Land Rover Discovery (Bernese Mountain Dog hauler) > Subject: Re: [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC solution - FF/WOB> To: res076bb@verizon.net> From: SDuval@trialgraphix.com> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:30:01 -0400> CC: bmwcsregistry@idb.ded.forest.net> > Classic. You see that kind of quality work all over Florida, but I think> this qualifies as a home improvement, since they probably also live in this> fine vessel.> > Scott> '73 CS> > > > > "gary.jane" > .net> To > Sent by: "coupegroup" > bmwcsregistry-bou > nces@idb.ded.fore cc > st.net > Subject > [BMWCSRegistry] After-market AC > 08/18/2008 07:11 solution - FF/WOB > PM > > > > > > > > > > Here's an after-market automobile AC solution that shows great ingenuity.> No pesky tapping into the car's electrical system, no troublesome AC> plumbing to retro-fit into the engine compartment. Elegant!> > > > (Oops, must have failed to attach the picture last time. Duh/Doh!)> > I'm thinking of adding this to our coupe as a winter project.> > Gary Burke> 1973 3.0 CS> +2240356+[attachment "New AC solution.jpg" deleted by Scott> Duval/TrialGraphix] _______________________________________________> Please edit the length of replies> BMWCSRegistry mailing list> BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net> http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry> > _______________________________________________> Please edit the length of replies> BMWCSRegistry mailing list> BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net> http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry _________________________________________________________________ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Art -- From cam.holliday at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 27 18:21:44 2008 From: cam.holliday at sympatico.ca (Cameron Holliday) Date: Wed Aug 27 18:21:29 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Brake upgrade Message-ID: Hi Group, I am interested in adapting 88 735 front brakes to my 75 E3. Any tips? What master cylinder in the best to use to replace the two line system or can I adapt that mastercyl. Thanks Cam From briblett at comcast.net Thu Aug 28 07:05:56 2008 From: briblett at comcast.net (Bill Riblett) Date: Thu Aug 28 07:05:34 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Brake upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c908fe$0bed3460$23c79d20$@net> Is this possible. I know it is a fairly common upgrade for E28s and later E24s, but they use a completely different front suspension and brake design from E3s and E9s. The later cars use single-piston calipers where E3/9s use 4-piston calipers which I think mount quite differently. Have you looked at the Ireland Engineering brake upgrades? They claim their systems are bolt-on. Look here: http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=ireland&StoreTyp e=BtoC&Count1=250133693&Count2=167274117 -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of Cameron Holliday Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:22 PM To: coupe Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Brake upgrade Hi Group, I am interested in adapting 88 735 front brakes to my 75 E3. Any tips? What master cylinder in the best to use to replace the two line system or can I adapt that mastercyl. Thanks Cam _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From cgshawaii at netscape.net Fri Aug 29 14:01:25 2008 From: cgshawaii at netscape.net (cgshawaii@netscape.net) Date: Fri Aug 29 14:01:02 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Brake upgrade In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CAD818632E9FBA-60C-1C7B@webmail-nc02.sysops.aol.com> Gents, I have an '87 735i and it uses the hydraulic booster with the "bomb" which is reputedly a frequent failure item.? However a friend has an '88 and he has?vacuum assisted brakes, so I guess he got lucky... I assume you intend to use the vacuum boosted version...? Why do you want to replace the original M/C? Charlie -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Holliday To: coupe Sent: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:21 pm Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Brake upgrade Hi Group, I am interested in adapting 88 735 front brakes to my 75 E3. Any tips? What master cylinder in the best to use to replace the two line system or can I adapt that mastercyl.? ? Thanks? ? Cam? _______________________________________________? Please edit the length of replies? BMWCSRegistry mailing list? BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net? http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080829/99d34db3/attachment.html From john at morgensen.com Fri Aug 29 14:52:43 2008 From: john at morgensen.com (John Morgensen) Date: Fri Aug 29 14:58:42 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Speedo Message-ID: <48B8457B.2070207@morgensen.com> I recently acquired a manual 89 535i to go with my coupe. The speedometer (electric) suddenly stopped working. Any clues where to start looking? Is the pick-up on the transmission somewhere? Thanks, John Morgensen 74 3.0 CS 89 535i From briblett at comcast.net Fri Aug 29 15:30:05 2008 From: briblett at comcast.net (Bill Riblett) Date: Fri Aug 29 15:29:42 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Speedo In-Reply-To: <48B8457B.2070207@morgensen.com> References: <48B8457B.2070207@morgensen.com> Message-ID: <000001c90a0d$a4108b10$ec31a130$@net> The electric speedometer pickup is on the differential, like all BMWs from the E28/E30 etc on. -----Original Message----- From: bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net [mailto:bmwcsregistry-bounces@idb.ded.forest.net] On Behalf Of John Morgensen Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:53 PM To: cslist Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Speedo I recently acquired a manual 89 535i to go with my coupe. The speedometer (electric) suddenly stopped working. Any clues where to start looking? Is the pick-up on the transmission somewhere? Thanks, John Morgensen 74 3.0 CS 89 535i _______________________________________________ Please edit the length of replies BMWCSRegistry mailing list BMWCSRegistry@idb.ded.forest.net http://idb.ded.forest.net/mailman/listinfo/bmwcsregistry From art at bmwcsregistry.org Sun Aug 31 10:22:43 2008 From: art at bmwcsregistry.org (Art Wegweiser) Date: Sun Aug 31 10:22:10 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Coupe for Sale Message-ID: 1973 BMW 3.0CS Excellent body condition, mechanical performance and daily driver roadworthiness. Why spend more on a 3-year old 3-series when you could own a timeless classic! Car is located in San Diego area. Details: - 3.5 liter engine upgrade & 5-spd conversion performed by Carl Nelson @ La Jolla Independent - Very clean engine. This car has been pampered & always garaged - Nachtblau (Night Blue) exterior; Euro body trim - Visually immaculate paintwork/chrome from 8-feet away - touchup to show condition - Usual rust-prone areas well-maintained - Black leather upholstery, original wood paneling, power windows in great condition - New registration through Jul '09 - Tool kit (partial) - Numerous upgrades/extras including: - Twin Webers - Alpina alloy wheels - Michelin Pilot tyres - Nardi wooden steering wheel w/Roundel - BMW Roundel shifter - Alpine 6-CD changer stereo, Kenwood amp - Custom car cover - All paperwork and pictures available - please inquire - $18,750 - Email: mretrobay@yahoo.com Owning one of these, you must get used to the ubiquitous flattering attention as the BMW 3-liter coupes are considered one of the Top 25 Most Beautiful Cars Ever. This is one of the best all-around visual and drivable examples you'll find. I know because I spent much time looking before I acquired it 2 years ago. Though I'm very sad to let it go, I'm leaving the country for an indefinite period and am willing to pass it on to an appreciative buyer.

There are very few of these on the road and fewer still that possess the rare combination of exemplary body condition, mechanical performance and daily driver roadworthiness.

Details:

- 3.5 liter engine upgrade & 5-spd conversion performed by Carl Nelson @ La Jolla Independent (the country's premier BMW e9 Coupe expert)

- Very clean engine. This car has been pampered & always garaged

- Nachtblau (Night Blue) exterior; Euro body trim

- Visually immaculate paintwork/chrome from 8-feet away - touchup to show condition

- Usual rust-prone areas very well-maintained

- Black leather upholstery, original wood paneling, power windows in great condition

- New registration through Jul '09

- Tool kit (partial)

- Numerous upgrades/extras including:

- Twin Webers

- Alpina alloy wheels

- Michelin Pilot tyres

- Nardi wooden steering wheel w/Roundel

- BMW Roundel shifter

- Alpine 6-CD changer stereo, Kenwood amp

- Custom car cover

- All paperwork and more pictures available - please inquire

< -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080831/f32423d8/attachment.html From cgshawaii at netscape.net Sun Aug 31 13:42:13 2008 From: cgshawaii at netscape.net (cgshawaii@netscape.net) Date: Sun Aug 31 13:41:33 2008 Subject: [BMWCSRegistry] Carb synchronizers for sale, pcs on request In-Reply-To: <000001c908fe$0bed3460$23c79d20$@net> References: <000001c908fe$0bed3460$23c79d20$@net> Message-ID: <8CAD9A809573FDF-274-5CB0@webmail-nb04.sysops.aol.com> Group:? I have three carb synchronizers and five adapters which I've decided I no longer need.? Bowing to Art's preference not to post pics to the list, if you're interested I will send pictures separately. The synchronizers: Two UNI-SYN, one at missing the black foam base, this could be easily replaced or substituted. The hole at bottom is 1-1/4" diameter. One MotoMeter brand "Synchro-Test" model with oval base 4-1/4" x 2-3/4", black foam is 1/2" thick, nice touch.? The hole at bottom is 1-1/2" diameter. Floats in all synchronizers move well though you should blow the cobwebs out of all of them.? All are of course adjustable to yield useful comparative readings at?idle or higher rpm.? The adapters: Two black plastic sync hoods for Zenith 35-40 INAT carbs as used on BMW CS and Bavaria, also those Benz which used these carbs. A pair of home-made fiberglass hood/adaptors, same function as the black "factory" hoods. One black rubbery adaptor which I _think_ fits sidedraft webers. One side has two circular openings, the other side has two square openings . There are no markings except for the "40" cast on the circular side.? The circular?openings are 1-9/16" diameter and separated by 1-1/2" as near as I can measure them? The opposite side shown on the second picture shows the 1-1/4" square openings which fit .... I dunno what... maybe 32/36 or 38/38 carbs.? Each of the square openings has 4 slots formed in, I speculate these are to handle choke axles or whatever.? I don't have a 32/36-equipped car on hand to check. I have used the dealer's synchronizing device and it is VERY sensitive, but is useful only?at idle rpm.? Any of these devices will do the job of synchronizing your Zeniths, and work both at idle and at midrange (you got to?synchronize at both speeds, read the Blue Books, there's a good reason).? Any of the snychro devices is 20 clams.? The sidedraft gizmo I guess ought to be the same (deal!).? I think the pictures adequately show what I have but if you need more detail, I can take further photos or measurements You pay shipping, default is?via USPS padded envelope, unless you want something else.? No handling fee, you pay ship and envelope.? About as cheap as it can be; if you want insurance that's your nickel. Note... if you respond on Tuesday or later, email my office address cgschuster (at) eknahawaii.com because Outlook running there is much faster than my home machine from which I sent this note. Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/pipermail/bmwcsregistry/attachments/20080831/9769fe90/attachment.html